dancook Posted May 12, 2017 Share #1 Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm processing some images, and you know the JPG preview you get before it renders the RAW, well that has such a rich red - and I want it back! Are there any LR presets or options where I can get back to the processing of that preview? - actually it's more than just the reds, I often really like the preview jpg rendition. Edited May 12, 2017 by dancook Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dancook Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share #2 Posted May 12, 2017 here is raw and extracted thumb loving the extracted reds.. Raw by dancook1982, on Flickr Extracted Thumb by dancook1982, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted May 12, 2017 Share #3 Posted May 12, 2017 RAW files have a higher dynamic range than the JPEGS, the JPEGS have more contrast and saturation. If you process your SL RAWs in Lightroom, you could use the colour mixer to get that red. And use the contrast and saturation slider to get the bite the JPEG preview has. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted May 12, 2017 RAW files have a higher dynamic range than the JPEGS, the JPEGS have more contrast and saturation. If you process your SL RAWs in Lightroom, you could use the colour mixer to get that red. And use the contrast and saturation slider to get the bite the JPEG preview has. Yes, that was the manual process i set upon - and ended up with this - it's not exactly the same, but I preferred it in the end. New Version by dancook1982, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted May 12, 2017 Share #5 Posted May 12, 2017 This is one thing that Fuji has that I miss on my Leica M9. You can import a RAW file then apply a film simulation based on the ones used in camera and provided by Fuji. It of course doesn't match exactly the JPEG but it's a good start. I'd love to be able to import the RAW which matched the JPEG but had the ability to be altered like a RAW. If that makes sense? Beautiful picture by the way. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted May 12, 2017 Share #6 Posted May 12, 2017 Have you tried telling lightroom to treat the RAW and JPG as separate files, that way it will upload them both and you could switch between one and the other to try and match it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted May 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Have you tried telling lightroom to treat the RAW and JPG as separate files, that way it will upload them both and you could switch between one and the other to try and match it. i did that, but i extracted the embedded thumb from the raw to get something to match i shoot raw only. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted May 12, 2017 Share #8 Posted May 12, 2017 i did that, but i extracted the embedded thumb from the raw to get something to match i shoot raw only. Ah I see. Is there a reason to shoot just RAW? Or just to save space? I don't use the SL so curious. I very rarely even look at the JPG but shoot both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted May 12, 2017 Ah I see. Is there a reason to shoot just RAW? Or just to save space? I don't use the SL so curious. I very rarely even look at the JPG but shoot both. I'm pretty sure it's easier on the buffer to just shoot RAW than RAW+Jpg, so I shoot RAW only for speed. Also at the end of a wedding it saves time when copying folders. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted May 12, 2017 Share #10 Posted May 12, 2017 That might be something to try on my m9 which doesn't have the best buffer... www.robertpoolephotography.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted May 12, 2017 Share #11 Posted May 12, 2017 There is an option in Photoshop to match colours between two photos: Make a google (or whatever) search on "Photoshop Match Colour". I have not used the "Match Colour" option myself, but I would imagine that you can "learn" from how Photoshop alters the colours in your raw based on your (preferred) jpg. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Poole Posted May 12, 2017 Share #12 Posted May 12, 2017 There is an option in Photoshop to match colours between two photos: Make a google (or whatever) search on "Photoshop Match Colour". I have not used the "Match Colour" option myself, but I would imagine that you can "learn" from how Photoshop alters the colours in your raw based on your (preferred) jpg. Any idea if there is similar in Lightroom? Would be very useful Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted May 12, 2017 Share #13 Posted May 12, 2017 The RAW red is flatter and slightly more orange than the JPG on my (uncalibrated) monitor. Maybe a bit of contrast and a hue/luminance tweak? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted May 12, 2017 Share #14 Posted May 12, 2017 I'm processing some images, and you know the JPG preview you get before it renders the RAW, well that has such a rich red - and I want it back! Are there any LR presets or options where I can get back to the processing of that preview? - actually it's more than just the reds, I often really like the preview jpg rendition. Build your own Lightroom preset/defaults: Shoot a photo of a color chart with a few other things (like some skin tones, reds, greens) using JPEG+raw. Adjust the RAW until it matches. Save those settings as your Lightroom as a preset Set them to be the default for the SL. Not too difficult. After that, just capture with DNGs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share #15 Posted May 12, 2017 Build your own Lightroom preset/defaults: Shoot a photo of a color chart with a few other things (like some skin tones, reds, greens) using JPEG+raw. Adjust the RAW until it matches. Save those settings as your Lightroom as a preset Set them to be the default for the SL. Not too difficult. After that, just capture with DNGs. Yea I have no colour chart, and I needed to process the images by lunch today - but I got something that worked for me a new colour preset of my own making Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus2000 Posted May 12, 2017 Share #16 Posted May 12, 2017 Not sure if you tried this but in the develop module in Lightroom, if you look at the Profile in the Camera Calibration pane, you have the "Adobe Standard" option and the "Embedded". Have you tried the latter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted May 13, 2017 Share #17 Posted May 13, 2017 I think you may have stumbled upon the reason people use Capture One. I have images with reds that drop dead in Lightroom, whereas Capture One deals with them no problem. They do a 30 day trial and I would recommend you take a problem 'red' image and try it in their raw processor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share #18 Posted May 13, 2017 Not sure if you tried this but in the develop module in Lightroom, if you look at the Profile in the Camera Calibration pane, you have the "Adobe Standard" option and the "Embedded". Have you tried the latter? The embedded option is not the solution, that gives something else - worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted May 13, 2017 Share #19 Posted May 13, 2017 That might be something to try on my m9 which doesn't have the best buffer... www.robertpoolephotography.com There's no advantage to dng + jpg Robert. The jpg info is in the dng. I'm not really sure why mfrs offer this setting, except that they can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share #20 Posted May 13, 2017 I haven't learnt Capture One, I've only installed on a trial. Capture One, with no edit. L1500468 by dancook1982, on Flickr LR with no edit Raw by dancook1982, on Flickr Leica SL in built JPG renderer Extracted Thumb by dancook1982, on Flickr My LR edit New Version by dancook1982, on Flickr 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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