semi-ambivalent Posted April 20, 2017 Share #1 Posted April 20, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica to raise prices (in US at least) May first. The M-A that's also haunting me pops by 6%. May is probably when Wetzlar will answer my email about a finder change in an M-A. s-a Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steveBK Posted April 20, 2017 Share #2 Posted April 20, 2017 Is there a reason Leica gouges US customers? It never seems to matter what the Euro is, the prices are almost always higher here. I can get a VAT-refunded M10 out of UK for 10% less than US retail.. even worse if I buy in-store or online in NY and pay sales tax. The SL is even more abusive. 20-30% cheaper elsewhere. US $7450 / $7897 @ 6% tax (average-ish for US states) UK $7136 VAT / $5945 ex-VAT HK $5513 Austria $7438 VAT / $6200 ex-VAT FX rates move, but to normalize these prices you need to use 3 year old FX rates... for an 18 month old camera What's also weird is that in UK the M10 & SL are basically same price, but in US the SL is ~10% more than M10. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted April 20, 2017 Share #3 Posted April 20, 2017 Is there a reason Leica gouges US customers? Shipping, what the market will accept and possibly the nuisance fee for dealing with Americans. . 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted June 7, 2017 Share #4 Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) In the meantime: As a special promotion the price for the H6D-50c has been reduced to €15 900. Edited June 7, 2017 by Alberti Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5 Posted March 9, 2018 I believe in the UK next month (Apr ’18) Leica will increase its prices by 10%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted March 9, 2018 Share #6 Posted March 9, 2018 What's also weird is that in UK the M10 & SL are basically same price, but in US the SL is ~10% more than M10. I'm not sure where you have been shopping but the M10 price is typically 20% more than the SL price here in the UK (which makes your comparison even more stark). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted March 10, 2018 Share #7 Posted March 10, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is there a reason Leica gouges US customers? It never seems to matter what the Euro is, the prices are almost always higher here. I can get a VAT-refunded M10 out of UK for 10% less than US retail.. even worse if I buy in-store or online in NY and pay sales tax. The SL is even more abusive. 20-30% cheaper elsewhere. US $7450 / $7897 @ 6% tax (average-ish for US states) UK $7136 VAT / $5945 ex-VAT HK $5513 Austria $7438 VAT / $6200 ex-VAT FX rates move, but to normalize these prices you need to use 3 year old FX rates... for an 18 month old camera What's also weird is that in UK the M10 & SL are basically same price, but in US the SL is ~10% more than M10. The SL sells for $5995 in the US. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted March 26, 2018 Share #8 Posted March 26, 2018 Leica to raise prices (in US at least) May first. The M-A that's also haunting me pops by 6%. May is probably when Wetzlar will answer my email about a finder change in an M-A. s-a Is this for real? Where did you hear/read that? I may have to "stock up!" I think it's a good sign with respect to the overall brand and business. Though, of course, if one wants to use this gear, it's quite an expensive system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml_photo Posted March 26, 2018 Share #9 Posted March 26, 2018 Is this for real? Where did you hear/read that? I may have to "stock up!" I think it's a good sign with respect to the overall brand and business. Though, of course, if one wants to use this gear, it's quite an expensive system. WOOOPS! Just saw that this thread was started a year ago....for May of 2017 price increase. Never mind... haha (I still think price increases are a healthy sign for the most part.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted April 6, 2018 Share #10 Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) To borrow a line from a well known Christmas carol, "It's the most wonderful time of the year." Effective May 1 - M10 (black and silver): +400 USD Monochrom 246: +445 USD M-P 240 (black and silver): +$500 USD 28 Summilux (black): +$300 USD Noctilux 0.95 (black): +$500 USD Noctilux 0.95 (silver): +600 USD There are many other price increases in addition to the above... :( :( :( Start saving, because Leica cameras are about to get even more expensivehttps://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/leica-cameras-price-rise/ Edited April 6, 2018 by Herr Barnack Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 6, 2018 Share #11 Posted April 6, 2018 I think Staples uses the Andy Williams version of that carol in the TV ads around Christmas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted April 6, 2018 Share #12 Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) Found it: Funny stuff... Edited April 6, 2018 by Herr Barnack Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted April 8, 2018 Share #13 Posted April 8, 2018 There are many other price increases in addition to the above... :( :( :( Yeah, the value of my cameras, lenses, and accessories is set to rise! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted April 8, 2018 Share #14 Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) Yeah, the value of my cameras, lenses, and accessories is set to rise! The prices of new cameras and lenses will go up 3 to 7% and the value of preowned cameras and lenses will go up 0.50 to 0.75 of 1%. Sound about right? Edited April 8, 2018 by Herr Barnack Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 8, 2018 Share #15 Posted April 8, 2018 The S007 price will have increased 18.3% from its $16,900 list price in early April last year. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted April 9, 2018 Share #16 Posted April 9, 2018 The prices of new cameras and lenses will go up 3 to 7% and the value of preowned cameras and lenses will go up 0.50 to 0.75 of 1%. Sound about right? So that is up, right? You financial experts with your fancy mathematics, percentages, and doom laden hand-wringing can't fool me, if it looks like a price rise on secondhand gear I'll take it. I might sell something and with the profit buy a pro quality selfie stick, always wanted one of those, never had the spare funds, until now! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted April 9, 2018 Share #17 Posted April 9, 2018 Is there a reason Leica gouges US customers? It never seems to matter what the Euro is, the prices are almost always higher here. I can get a VAT-refunded M10 out of UK for 10% less than US retail.. even worse if I buy in-store or online in NY and pay sales tax. The SL is even more abusive. 20-30% cheaper elsewhere. US $7450 / $7897 @ 6% tax (average-ish for US states) UK $7136 VAT / $5945 ex-VAT HK $5513 Austria $7438 VAT / $6200 ex-VAT FX rates move, but to normalize these prices you need to use 3 year old FX rates... for an 18 month old camera What's also weird is that in UK the M10 & SL are basically same price, but in US the SL is ~10% more than M10. Maybe Leica already priced in Trump's customs tariffs ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted April 9, 2018 Share #18 Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Talking about different prices in different markets around the world is not really making a valid comparison, particularly with low volume expensive items which can be subject to different market costs, conditions, demands and tastes. This is not the Big Mac Index that we are talking about here. Pre tax prices must also factor in post tax price situation and taxes vary a lot. People in the US happily accept pre tax price quotations, whereas in Europe such situations would cause a revolution. Indeed it is illegal in most European countries to quote VAT exclusive prices to consumers, although people registered for VAT can get ex VAT price quotations. On the more general point it is clear that camera prices will continue to go north as sales volumes fall. The vast proportion of the camera market has now gone to phones because of the communications/social media aspects. The camera industry certainly missed a trick on those aspects, but the Leica 'hedge' with Huawei is an interesting one. The other thing that has died is the constant digital camera upgrade cycle and both amateur and professional photographers have cottoned on to this. The one hope with longer product cycles is that development costs should reduce over time as they are amortised, leading to a fall in prices in due course. There are, of course, other factors which will affect costs and taxes such as the growth of economic nationalism eg Brexit and threats of tariff wars. These will affect both the final price to the consumer in terms of pre and post tax prices. The only relevant FX rates are the current ones and the long term prospects for some 'major' currencies cannot be easily predicted. We are indeed living in interesting times, but the interests of Leica enthusiasts are the last things on the minds of voters and politicians. William Edited April 9, 2018 by willeica 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 9, 2018 Share #19 Posted April 9, 2018 Development costs will be amortised across fewer sales. Don't expect a reduction in 6% price hikes any time soon... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted April 9, 2018 Share #20 Posted April 9, 2018 Development costs will be amortised across fewer sales. Don't expect a reduction in 6% price hikes any time soon... I agree generally, but I also see longer product cycles which might moderate prices somewhat in the longer term. William Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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