abrewer Posted April 14, 2017 Share #1 Posted April 14, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Am considering a purchase of a camera from which I extracted the following metadata: PDF attached I found the date of the image and camera SN etc quickly, but am trying to establish the number of actuations and other authenticating information about the camera. Anyone give me a hand in this regard? Thanks in advance.Allan Typ240FileRawData.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 Hi abrewer, Take a look here Help...please, with EXIF from Typ 240. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Exodies Posted April 14, 2017 Share #2 Posted April 14, 2017 As far as I know (with my source being this forum) the actuations, if it exists, is encrypted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted April 14, 2017 Share #3 Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) As far as I know, there is no way to find out the number of shutter actuations for the M240, unless you are a Leica technician with access to the camera's inner workings. I do not know the reason for this secrecy, but given the change from M8/M9 to M240, the information is less relevant or useful than it would be with the earlier cameras. With liveview, the shutter opens and closes more often than just for shooting; the number of actuations for shooting is thus only a partial guide to the amount of use the shutter has had. One user might use liveview all the time, while another might never use it, even though both of them take the same number of shots. Edit: I've had a quick look at the file. While I am most definitely not an expert on EXIF, most of the data in the file appear to refer to the processing after import into Adobe Photoshop, and only a few lines on the first page give information about the camera and lens. Edited April 14, 2017 by LocalHero1953 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted April 14, 2017 Share #4 Posted April 14, 2017 As far as I'm aware it's accessible with the correct diagnostic equipment, eg at Leica. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 15, 2017 Share #5 Posted April 15, 2017 [...] I do not know the reason for this secrecy, but given the change from M8/M9 to M240, the information is less relevant or useful than it would be with the earlier cameras. With liveview, the shutter opens and closes more often than just for shooting; the number of actuations for shooting is thus only a partial guide to the amount of use the shutter has had. One user might use liveview all the time, while another might never use it, even though both of them take the same number of shots. [...] Not sure if the number of shots is of much interest for second hand sellers and buyers. What they want to know is how worn the shutter can be. Such a way of hiding the truth sounds wearisome to me. YMMV. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 15, 2017 Share #6 Posted April 15, 2017 How many shutter actuations are there on my M6? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted April 15, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not sure if the number of shots is of much interest for second hand sellers and buyers. What they want to know is how worn the shutter can be. Such a way of hiding the truth sounds wearisome to me. YMMV. Thank you, lct. How would one go about evaluating the shutter wear? Is it something visible to a potential buyer? Also, if you have time please, what things would you be looking for in the purchase of a used Typ 240? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 15, 2017 Share #8 Posted April 15, 2017 How many shutter actuations are there on my M6? Count your number of rolls and multiply by 24 or 36 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 15, 2017 Share #9 Posted April 15, 2017 Thank you, lct. How would one go about evaluating the shutter wear? Is it something visible to a potential buyer? Also, if you have time please, what things would you be looking for in the purchase of a used Typ 240? Hi Alan, there is no way to evaluate the shutter wear i'm afraid. My Sony A7s allows that and so does my M8.2 but not the M240 for whatever reason. Now in practice those are not cameras with much use generally, unless they own to pro photographers, so i would look for cosmetics in the first place. Better check that the camera mount is clean and the RF accurate though and the shutter must work fine at all shutter speeds including 1/4000s. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted April 16, 2017 Share #10 Posted April 16, 2017 Count your number of rolls and multiply by 24 or 36 What about the 2-3 extra shutter actions required to load the film...(that's ~10% extra) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 16, 2017 Share #11 Posted April 16, 2017 What about the 2-3 extra shutter actions required to load the film...(that's ~10% extra) Funny but those are lever actions, not shutter actions if i'm not mistaken. In that sense, my M3 double stroke does 2 lever actions and 1 shutter action per shot but i'm no techie at all so i may be wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted April 16, 2017 Share #12 Posted April 16, 2017 Allan, was this a private transaction? A dealer would give you the level of reassurance you seek, backed up with a limited warranty. With a private purchase all you have is trust and integrity or lack thereof. I hope you have no grounds for real anxiety. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 16, 2017 Share #13 Posted April 16, 2017 [...] With a private purchase all you have is trust and integrity or lack thereof. I hope you have no grounds for real anxiety. It is of course advisable to ask the right questions to the buyer. If he/she writes wrong answers guarantees like Paypal's work fine. A least it is my experience on a 21/3.4 pre-asph recently. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted April 16, 2017 Not to worry, David. I am asking BEFORE any money changes hands. Thanks everybody for your help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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