Leica M 50mm Summicron (69-70) DEAL? HELP NEEDED?

[Gabrimaz]

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Dear Leica Guys.

 

I think I am close to making a deal with a M-Mount 50mm / 2.0 Summicron from the 69s-79s. The vendor is asking, in my opinion, a very low price (roughly £470). The only issues here which stop me from proceeding with the deal are some marks on the front glass. I think they pretty much look like cleaning marks even though I'm not 100% sure.

Please fin attached some pictures showing the front glass with marks and lens itself.

1.Would you guys still recommend buying this lens if with marks caused by cleaning? 

2.Would those marks (if caused by cleaning) really affect my pictures that much)

3. Is it still a deal?

 

Many thanks in advance guys.

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[spydrxx]

I wouldn't worry about those marks, they might cause some increase in flare, but they shouldn't affect overall sharpness or contrast. However, I'd negotiate hard, based on the marks, for a discount from the dealer.

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[a.noctilux]

My advice is to test it against front lighting, then decide if the flare is acceptable.

 

Don't forget that if you buy it, and if later you must sell it, it would be difficult to sell because of thoses marks.

[TomB_tx]

It is a good price, and it should still perform well. However, if the mark bothers you enough you may never be happy with it, even if it has no effect on images.

[michaelwj]

It is a good price, and it should still perform well. However, if the mark bothers you enough you may never be happy with it, even if it has no effect on images.

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[lct]

Looks more like fungus than cleaning marks i'm afraid but i may be wrong. Advising to buy a faulty lens i something i cannot do anyway. Clean Summicrons # 11817 can be found for less than 1,000 EUR and mint ZM Planar 50/2 can be had for half less.

 

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[Michael Geschlecht]

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Hello Gabrimaz,

 

Welcome to the Forum,

 

The WIKI at the top of this page dates this specific lens # 2535192 as having been made in 1972.

 

Altho, correctly, it is an optical version which was introduced around 1969 -1970.

 

Best Regards,

 

Michael

[Jean-Michel]

There is no lack of 'excellent' shape 50 Summicrons available. Even with a good price you may well suffer buyer's remorse for the rest of your time with this lens.

Jean-Michel

[Eoin]

I wouldn't call that mark a "cleaning mark", it looks like actual damage / scrape to the front lens element.

Cleaning marks should IMO be almost invisible when looking through the lens and not as opaque as shown in these images.

How much this mark will affect the final image is anyones guess, but that blemish will forever annoy you.

 

My advice is ... if in doubt, don't.

[Gabrimaz]

Guys, you're amazing. Thank you so much for your help

[JohnnySeven]

Its a fair price. Not a steal by any means. But the 50 summicron is a classic and to have a "beater" summicron that you can knock around a little would be nice.

[tobey bilek]

You can not do that cleaning.  They are crash marks.  

 

I will not buy stuff like that.