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    • By ggill1313
      Just got my M10 and have been somewhat disappointed by the colors. In some circumstances, they’re absolutely great. In others (and shooting situations which I frequently shoot - backlit subjects who have lighter skin tones), they fall apart when I do any serious color grading. I’ve attached a link for reference. Notice the majority of influence over the skin tones is determined by the purple slider. In my experience on professional Canon systems (as well as Fuji), skin tones are generally captured in the Oranges, Reds, and Yellows. On occasion, I’ve noticed them “bleeding” into the Purples/Magentas, but generally it’s an easy correction with a hue adjustment toward red in Lightroom. This has happened more on my Fuji gear than my Canon, which I thought was just a product of the XTRANS. 
      Images for reference. Note: I’ve increased each slider to 100 to illustrate the influence of the respective slider, not as an artistic decision. https://imgur.com/gallery/mFTvTGz
      I’ve had to do more “additive” color editing (color grading with added oranges/yellows in the mid tones) to get even close to the effect I desire to be consistent with my professional body of work, but it’s tedious and feels more like a workaround as opposed to simply a different process. 
      Is this a hallmark of these sensors? Has anyone else had an issue with skin tones merging into the purples? The issue here is that it doesn’t give me precise and consistent control over tonalities which are consistent with my other work. Not only that, but as opposed to adjusting a couple of sliders to produce the look, I’m adjusting literally three times more to try and get close and, eventually compromise, on the desired look. 
      Also, here is an attached photo with the exposure info as well as histogram illustrating that I’m shooting at base ISO, and exposed with the limitations of the M10 sensor in mind. 
      https://imgur.com/gallery/v2EPnGf
      I want to add that I’ve been shooting for over a decade. This certainly isn’t my first rodeo. The only thing left for me to try is making my own custom color profile, but in over a decade of shooting, this has never been a requisite to get the colors I want out of my photos. 
      Does the M10-R improve on any of these shortcomings?
      Also, I want to preempt against any comments telling me I’m just confused or apologetics from Leica koolaid mixers. I’ve read some responses on this forum before from some of them and they seem to be obstinately opposed to the notion that perhaps the sensors in these cameras aren’t as good. While DXOMark gives the M10 a higher overall score than my 6D, in my experience, the colors are more pliable. Finally, my artistic discretion is going to differ from yours. I have seen a lot of photos posted here in discussion which are also effectively SOOC, with minimal correction. I have a stylized look I go for, which requires flexible colors. 
    • By thomas_schertel
      Das nächste Thema heißt "Fassaden". Ich denke, man kann es wörtlich, oder auch im übertragenen Sinn verstehen.
      Viel Spaß beim Fotografieren mit Euerer Schraubleica.
      Fotografieren: Montag, 16. September 2019 bis Sonntag, 30. September 2019
      Entwickel, Scannen, Einstellen: Montag 30. September bis Sonntag, 13. Oktober 2019
      Abstimmen: Montag, 14. Oktober 2019 bis Sonntag, 27. Oktober 2019
      The next theme is: "Facades". You may take it literally, or figuratively.
      Much joy in taking photos with your screw - Leica.
        
      Taking pictures: Monday, 16. September 2019 until Sunday, 30. September 2019
      Developing, scanning, publishing: Monday, 30. September until Sunday, 13. Oktober 2019
      Voting: Monday, 14. Oktober 2019 until Sunday, 27. Oktober 2019
      Euer/yours sincerely
      Thomas
    • By Pyrogallol
      I was waiting for the next Challenge to start - seems I have to start it as well as pick the subject, as I was the last winner.
      After "lines" I thought "curves" could be next.
      Looking at previous challenges it appears that about 3 weeks to take the picture is about right, then 3 weeks to develop/print/scan/load up, followed by 3 weeks to vote;
      So if we start now..
      Take your "curves" picture from 7 November to 30 November.
      Process and post them by Christmas Eve, 24 December.
      Vote from Christmas Day 25 December to 13 January.
      The rules of the challenge are now on the front page of the Forum, but basically you must use a screw thread Leica camera, anything from a UR (replica) through a 1a to a 111g. The lens does not have to have come out of the Wetzlar workshop, but I think it would be nice if both body and lens came off the workbench before 1936 so that you could imagine that Barnack himself had picked them up to check them before they were packed up and sent out. 
       
       
    • By erl
      As the winner of the last round (Look up! Look Up!) it is my great pleasure to set the theme for the next Barnack Challenge. So for the Barnack Challenge #33 I have chosen the theme "Seen Through"
       
      The dates are:
      Taking pictures:            Saturday 28th October to Sunday 5th November
      Posting pictures:          Monday 6th November to Sunday 19th November
      Voting:                         Monday 20th November to Sunday 3rd December
       
      Good luck!
       
      Regards,
       
      Erl
       
       
      As a reminder here are the rules:
       
      The Barnack Challenge runs four times a year.
       
      It is open to all Leica User Forum members. 
       
      In order to participate you must shoot a roll of film in line with a predefined theme within a defined period using a Screwmount or early fixed-lens Leica camera. You may use any lens, regardless of age or manufacturer, as long as it is LTM.
       
      Select your shot that in your view best matches the theme and post it onto a single thread set up for the purpose by the organiser in the Barnack Challenge Sub Forum. Post-processing of your image should be kept to a minimum - nothing that couldn't be done in a wet darkroom fifty years ago. You may post your image any size within forum rules.
       
      The thread will be open for postings but NOT for voting to allow all entries to be posted before voting starts. Your entries are not anonymous; feel free to post camera, lens and film details. 
       
      Voting will then be opened. Votes may then be cast on the following basis:
       
      Three points for best, two points for second and one point for third.
       
      Voting runs for two weeks. One vote per member, no voting for your own image.
       
      The winner gets the right to set the theme for the next Barnack Challenge.
       
       
      ------
       
       
      Als der Gewinner der letzten Barnack Challenge, (Autoportrait / Selbstportrait) moechte ich hiermit das Thema fuer die naechste Challenge bekanntgeben: "Tones, Tones, Tones!" (Töne, Töne, Töne!).
      Correction: "Seen Through"
       
      Die Daten:
      Zeit zum Photographieren:   Samstag 28 October to Sonntag 5 November
      Hochladen des Beitrags:      Montag 6 November to Sonntag 19 November
      Abstimmung:                         Montag 20 November to Sonntag 3 December
       
      Viel Spass und Erfolg!
       
      Gruss
       
      Erl
       
       
      Zur Erinnerung hier nochmal die Regeln:
       
      Die Barnack Challenge findet vier mal im Jahr statt.
       
      Jedes Leica User Forum Mitglied ist Teilnahmeberechtigt.
       
      Zur Teilnahme muessen Sie einen Film belichten, wobei die Photos dem gestellten Thema entsprechen sollten und innerhalb der angegebenen Zeit enstanden sein muessen. Die Photos muessen mit einer Schraubleica oder einer fruehen Leica mit fest eingebautem Objektive entstanden sein. Alle Objektive mit Schraubanschluss unabhaengig vom Alter oder Hersteller koennen verwendet werden. 
      Waehlen Sie das Photo das Ihrer Meinung nach am besten dem gestellten Thema entspricht und stellen Sie es in den entsprechenden Thread im Barnack Challenge Subforum. Die Bilder sollten nur minimal am Computer manipuliert werden (Post-processing) - nur solche Manipulationen sind zugestanden die auch in einer Dunkelkammer vor 50 Jahren moeglich waren. Sie koennen Ihr Photo in jeder den Forumsregeln entsprechenden Groesse einstellen. 
       
      Das Abstimmen beginnt nachdem alle Beitraege in einem gegebenen Zeitraum eingestellt sind. Ihre Bilder sind nicht anonym, und sie koennen auch gerne den verwendeten Kameratyp, Objektiv und Film angeben. 
       
      Nachdem der Zeitraum zum Hochladen der Bilder abgelaufen ist beginnt die Abstimmung. Jedes Forumsmitglied das abstimmt muss dreimal Punkte verteilen:
      Drei Punkte fuer das beste Bild
      Zwei Punkte fuer das zweitbeste Bild
      Einen Punkt fuer das drittbeste Bild
       
      Jedes Forumsmitglied kann einmal abstimmen, darf jedoch nicht fuer den eigenen Beitrag stimmen. 
       
      Der Gewinner bestimmt das Thema fuer die folgende Barnack Challenge.
    • By erl
      As the winner of the last round (Look up! Look Up!) it is my great pleasure to set the theme for the next Barnack Challenge. So for the Barnack Challenge #33 I have chosen the theme "Seen Through"
       
      The dates are:
      Taking pictures:            Saturday 28th October to Sunday 5th November
      Posting pictures:          Monday 6th November to Sunday 19th November
      Voting:                         Monday 20th November to Sunday 3rd December
       
      Good luck!
       
      Regards,
       
      Erl
       
       
      As a reminder here are the rules:
       
      The Barnack Challenge runs four times a year.
       
      It is open to all Leica User Forum members. 
       
      In order to participate you must shoot a roll of film in line with a predefined theme within a defined period using a Screwmount or early fixed-lens Leica camera. You may use any lens, regardless of age or manufacturer, as long as it is LTM.
       
      Select your shot that in your view best matches the theme and post it onto a single thread set up for the purpose by the organiser in the Barnack Challenge Sub Forum. Post-processing of your image should be kept to a minimum - nothing that couldn't be done in a wet darkroom fifty years ago. You may post your image any size within forum rules.
       
      The thread will be open for postings but NOT for voting to allow all entries to be posted before voting starts. Your entries are not anonymous; feel free to post camera, lens and film details. 
       
      Voting will then be opened. Votes may then be cast on the following basis:
       
      Three points for best, two points for second and one point for third.
       
      Voting runs for two weeks. One vote per member, no voting for your own image.
       
      The winner gets the right to set the theme for the next Barnack Challenge.
       
       
      ------
       
       
      Als der Gewinner der letzten Barnack Challenge, (Autoportrait / Selbstportrait) moechte ich hiermit das Thema fuer die naechste Challenge bekanntgeben: "Tones, Tones, Tones!" (Töne, Töne, Töne!).
      Correction: "Seen Through"
       
      Die Daten:
      Zeit zum Photographieren:   Samstag 28 October to Sonntag 5 November
      Hochladen des Beitrags:      Montag 6 November to Sonntag 19 November
      Abstimmung:                         Montag 20 November to Sonntag 3 December
       
      Viel Spass und Erfolg!
       
      Gruss
       
      Erl
       
       
      Zur Erinnerung hier nochmal die Regeln:
       
      Die Barnack Challenge findet vier mal im Jahr statt.
       
      Jedes Leica User Forum Mitglied ist Teilnahmeberechtigt.
       
      Zur Teilnahme muessen Sie einen Film belichten, wobei die Photos dem gestellten Thema entsprechen sollten und innerhalb der angegebenen Zeit enstanden sein muessen. Die Photos muessen mit einer Schraubleica oder einer fruehen Leica mit fest eingebautem Objektive entstanden sein. Alle Objektive mit Schraubanschluss unabhaengig vom Alter oder Hersteller koennen verwendet werden. 
      Waehlen Sie das Photo das Ihrer Meinung nach am besten dem gestellten Thema entspricht und stellen Sie es in den entsprechenden Thread im Barnack Challenge Subforum. Die Bilder sollten nur minimal am Computer manipuliert werden (Post-processing) - nur solche Manipulationen sind zugestanden die auch in einer Dunkelkammer vor 50 Jahren moeglich waren. Sie koennen Ihr Photo in jeder den Forumsregeln entsprechenden Groesse einstellen. 
       
      Das Abstimmen beginnt nachdem alle Beitraege in einem gegebenen Zeitraum eingestellt sind. Ihre Bilder sind nicht anonym, und sie koennen auch gerne den verwendeten Kameratyp, Objektiv und Film angeben. 
       
      Nachdem der Zeitraum zum Hochladen der Bilder abgelaufen ist beginnt die Abstimmung. Jedes Forumsmitglied das abstimmt muss dreimal Punkte verteilen:
      Drei Punkte fuer das beste Bild
      Zwei Punkte fuer das zweitbeste Bild
      Einen Punkt fuer das drittbeste Bild
       
      Jedes Forumsmitglied kann einmal abstimmen, darf jedoch nicht fuer den eigenen Beitrag stimmen. 
       
      Der Gewinner bestimmt das Thema fuer die folgende Barnack Challenge.

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