ELAN Posted January 23, 2017 Share #1 Posted January 23, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm currently using LR 5.7 with my M-P 240. The M10 is coming this week and I assume I need the latest LR. After much effort I found the Adobe LR 6 upgrade page (seems like they really really want us to subscribe to CC instead of buying the stand alone). According to the Adobe chat rep the M10 isn't supported in the latest LR 6.8, he pointed me here: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html Does LR 6.8 support the M10? And if not, is CC our only option? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Hi ELAN, Take a look here Lightroom for M10. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
digitalfx Posted January 23, 2017 Share #2 Posted January 23, 2017 hmmm...this might explain a few issues I am having. Im on version 6.6, and don't see an update for 6.8 available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 23, 2017 Share #3 Posted January 23, 2017 Most recent Leicas have been recognised by LR when available to buy ...... rather surprising if it isn't ...... although SL profile support appeared a couple of months after the release ...... which seems about average for adobe. Till then you will have to put up with the embedded profile from the camera which LR uses, which for a change seems to be pretty good from the reports so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 23, 2017 Share #4 Posted January 23, 2017 LR 6.8 has been available for some weeks. Use the Help > Updates menu command and it should find it. I downloaded and looked at some of the available M10 sample raw files in LR 6.8. I don't see much that I'd call "hideous rendering errors" ( ) like I did with the SL until SL compatibility was announced. They look pretty much ready for final work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandymc Posted January 23, 2017 Share #5 Posted January 23, 2017 Any version of LR later than 4 will support the M10; it's just a DNG file. The only thing you'll miss out on would be the Adobe camera profile rather than the embedded Leica profile. Sandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 23, 2017 Share #6 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) LR 6.8 has been available for some weeks. Use the Help > Updates menu command and it should find it. What I meant is that when I select updates none are shown Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited January 23, 2017 by digitalfx Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 23, 2017 Share #7 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Any version of LR later than 4 will support the M10; it's just a DNG file. The only thing you'll miss out on would be the Adobe camera profile rather than the embedded Leica profile. Sandy I wasn't having any issues using LR, but thought I read that Adobe updated the profile in the latest version for the M10 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited January 23, 2017 by digitalfx Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 23, 2017 Share #8 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) The solution from Adobe1- uninstall LR2- install version 6.03- install 6.8 updateFor some reason you can't update from 6.6 to 6.8 and must follow these steps. $%*&Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited January 23, 2017 by digitalfx Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted January 23, 2017 Share #9 Posted January 23, 2017 LR 6.8 has been available for some weeks. Use the Help > Updates menu command and it should find it. I downloaded and looked at some of the available M10 sample raw files in LR 6.8. I don't see much that I'd call "hideous rendering errors" ( ) like I did with the SL until SL compatibility was announced. They look pretty much ready for final work. That was my experience as well with some shots I took with a demo M10 on Sunday. LR 6.8 seemed to puzzle over how to generate a histogram, but could otherwise process the images. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELAN Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted January 23, 2017 Any version of LR later than 4 will support the M10; it's just a DNG file. The only thing you'll miss out on would be the Adobe camera profile rather than the embedded Leica profile. On the M240 I actually prefer the embedded Leica profile over the Adobe profile on most of my images. So LR 5.7 will happily process M10 DNG files? Is there any downside in using LR 5.7 besides the profile (and the new features LR 6 offers)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 23, 2017 Share #11 Posted January 23, 2017 The solution from Adobe 1- uninstall LR 2- install version 6.0 3- install 6.8 update For some reason you can't update from 6.6 to 6.8 and must follow these steps. $%*& Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Interesting. I know LR 6.6 had some significant issues, I skipped it entirely, so perhaps this is a consequence of that problem. It's not that big a deal, however, since they provide an uninstaller to take out the old version (just LR, not your catalog folder). You lose no work and the process just takes another minute or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 23, 2017 Share #12 Posted January 23, 2017 On the M240 I actually prefer the embedded Leica profile over the Adobe profile on most of my images. So LR 5.7 will happily process M10 DNG files? Is there any downside in using LR 5.7 besides the profile (and the new features LR 6 offers)? No. If it works well enough for you, just keep using it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 23, 2017 Share #13 Posted January 23, 2017 Capture One can see and render an M10 file, which is a bit unusual. (Usually, as with the SL, they wait a bit.) But some of the things that LightRoom 6.8 does (such as distortion correction for Leica M wide angles) do not happen in Capture One. Sandy, is there really any embedded profile in the DNG beyond the color matrix specification? scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted January 23, 2017 Share #14 Posted January 23, 2017 I rather gave up some months ago and got an abo. I hate to admit it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 23, 2017 Share #15 Posted January 23, 2017 Capture One Pro, the latest version, corrects for distortion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandymc Posted January 23, 2017 Share #16 Posted January 23, 2017 Capture One can see and render an M10 file, which is a bit unusual. (Usually, as with the SL, they wait a bit.) But some of the things that LightRoom 6.8 does (such as distortion correction for Leica M wide angles) do not happen in Capture One. Sandy, is there really any embedded profile in the DNG beyond the color matrix specification? scott Well, yes and no. Yes there is a profile, but it would only work for Adobe products. (it's not part of the "core" DNG, it's in the XMP, and nothing other than an Adobe product will understand that. Sandy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted January 23, 2017 Share #17 Posted January 23, 2017 Hi There Lightroom 6.8 has a profile for the M10 (6.6 doesn't). It may not be the final deal, but it is there. (see screenshot showing Adobe Standard and M10 (embedded). It's fairly subtle and understated (I like it!). It also does skin tones better . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268589-lightroom-for-m10/?do=findComment&comment=3194855'>More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 23, 2017 Share #18 Posted January 23, 2017 Hi There Lightroom 6.8 has a profile for the M10 (6.6 doesn't). It may not be the final deal, but it is there. (see screenshot showing Adobe Standard and M10 (embedded). It's fairly subtle and understated (I like it!). It also does skin tones better . Screen Shot 2017-01-23 at 18.12.30.png So you are using the profile labeled "Adobe Standard" or "Leica M10"? You have Adobe selected Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted January 23, 2017 Share #19 Posted January 23, 2017 It's fairly subtle and understated (I like it!). It also does skin tones better. You think so!? The "Adobe Standard" profile currently isn't very good (hopefully it will improve in future versions) ... but the "LEICA M10" profile is even worse. Much worse! It is in no way subtle or understated, but vastly oversaturated and way over the top. I think you'll get better results when starting out with "Adobe Standard" and then applying the following adjustments to the primary colours in the Camera Calibration pane: Red Hue: +10 Red Sat.: -5 Green Hue: 0 Green Sat.: 0 Blue Hue: -15 Blue Sat.: -20 (These numbers are not meant as a carefully elaborated optimum but a quick-and-dirty starting point for further optimisation ... still, they clearly are an improvement over the wacky default anyway.) Moreover, I think it's a good idea to pull the Saturation slider in the Basic pane back to -5 by default. And while you're at it, also reset the Color Noise Reduction amount from the absurdly high default value of 25 down to zero. Then save these settings as the new Camera Raw default for this camera model. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 23, 2017 Share #20 Posted January 23, 2017 Thanks Jono! I overlooked that when I was playing with the files. I'll have to go back and look at it again. I imagine that the Adobe Standard profile is the default. It takes only a second to customize LR to use the LEICA M10 profile as the default for M10 photos, however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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