M10 - the Image Thread

[imants]

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 The iphone brigade in the background  seem to have no problems, results look fine on instagram ..........probably not a good example to showcase the M10 results

Edited January 22, 2017 by epsonRD1

[dkmoore]

We have warm/yellow LED bulbs in recessed lighting which makes my wife's skin a little more yellow.

 

The picture is pretty darn close to how it looks under the specific lighting. 

 

No camera is going to be truly perfect as their are so many variables, including those outside of the cameras control. I like what I am seeing in my very limited testing.

 

Remember, I spent 0 seconds editing. I can make the yellowish tint disappear in 3 seconds but wanted to send unedited images. Again, the LED bulbs are more responsible for the yellowish tint than the M10s WB, which again I think is an improvement over the M240 and certainly the M9.

 

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[A miller]

We have warm/yellow LED bulbs in recessed lighting which makes my wife's skin a little more yellow.

 

The picture is pretty darn close to how it looks under the specific lighting. 

 

No camera is going to be truly perfect as their are so many variables, including those outside of the cameras control. I like what I am seeing in my very limited testing.

 

Remember, I spent 0 seconds editing. I can make the yellowish tint disappear in 3 seconds but wanted to send unedited images. Again, the LED bulbs are more responsible for the yellowish tint than the M10s WB, which again I think is an improvement over the M240 and certainly the M9.

 

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what WB setting?  Auto? tungsten?  I think the edited version would be more relevant and useful.  Again, the white looks pretty much white, which threw me off...

[dkmoore]

Auto WB. Part of the issue is that the embedded profile in Lightroom saturates the colors and warms the images up quite a bit. If you import and turn off LR settings the image is more neutral and cooler. 

[jaapv]

Posts which are not images or direct comments on the images shown will be moved or deleted without notification. Thank you for keeping this an image thread.

[dkmoore]

Jaapv,

 

Is your message directed at me?

[jaapv]

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No, it was a general remark, not directed at any person in particular. I did split off a few  OT posts into a separate thread though.

[uhoh7]

Hi Everyone

Some more images here:

 

 

https://adobe.ly/2kc1DJl

Great work, Jono

 

Looks like M9 with some extra DR in good hands

[sblitz]

Great work, Jono

 

Looks like M9 with some extra DR in good hands

 

Agree completely!

[Cyril Jayant]

Regarding Images that can show a difference

that of the later cameras be helpful for us to get to know about this camera.

Appreciate the images posted directly to this thread

I simply do not bother to divert in through links.

 

That's me.....

[a.j.z]

You can see and download some samples here

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http://www.fotopolis.pl/testy/aparaty/28060-leica-m10-zdjecia-przykladowe

Nice pics!

 

Did you (or anybody else) get the impression that the pictures get considerably softer from 3200 to 6400 in RAW? I am asking because I saw a comparison in the German forum with 100% crops where this is the case: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266174-leica-m10/?p=3193191 (pictures imported as DNG in LR and OOC according to the post).

 

There is basically no noise but it looks as if this was smoothed out.

 

You pics do not create this impression but they are not in full resolution.

Edited January 22, 2017 by a.j.z

[OR120]

I took the M10 to the Women's March On Washington today, and shot about 200 pictures.  The light was abysmal - it was completely flat and gray/white, and given how many women were wearing bright pinks and purples, I worried the pictures would come out really garish and awful, the colors too hot.  While I find I still can learn how best to adjust WB, the work needed in LR was pretty minimal, and the color rendering quite accurate. 

 

Attached is a link to a write-up of the event which also provided an opportunity to post images that I think can give you a sense of how well this camera performs.  

 

https://tulipfrenzy.com/2017/01/21/the-leica-m10-at-the-womens-march-on-washington/

 

Please note: while I clearly was at the event today in sympathy with it, if the politics offend you, just look at the pictures.  That's why I post them here -- to give you a sense of how the M10 performs under very difficult light conditions.  And if you don't want to peak, here's the spoiler: this is the best M I have ever used, and I've owned every one going back to the M7.

 

I hope you enjoy this post and find it useful.

 

Nice samples. I would say --- for me --- this type of light is the perfect digital light FOR ME.  No shadows. No black eye sockets. Just a giant soft box in the sky. Thanks for posting. I'm hoping to get down to the DC store and take a few shots with this M10.

[hmathias]

We have warm/yellow LED bulbs in recessed lighting which makes my wife's skin a little more yellow.

 

The picture is pretty darn close to how it looks under the specific lighting. 

 

No camera is going to be truly perfect as their are so many variables, including those outside of the cameras control. I like what I am seeing in my very limited testing.

 

Remember, I spent 0 seconds editing. I can make the yellowish tint disappear in 3 seconds but wanted to send unedited images. Again, the LED bulbs are more responsible for the yellowish tint than the M10s WB, which again I think is an improvement over the M240 and certainly the M9.

 

D

 

Leds have a discontinuous color spectrum (like fluorescents) they are missing some colors completely. Often photography under LEDs look different than the subject looks to your eye, when you were shooting. This is also true of "Professional film LED lighting". 

Edited January 22, 2017 by hmathias

[waterlenz]

Leds have a discontinuous color spectrum (like fluorescents) they are missing some colors completely. Often photography under LEDs look different than the subject looks to your eye, when you were shooting. This is also true of "Professional film LED lighting". 

True. However, there are some high CRI lights such as these: http://keldanlights.com/english/products/modular-video-lights/video-8m-cri.html?ridcat=22

[hmathias]

"CRI" is a standard description of Visible light rendering (visible by means of the human eye) color light balance, CRI has nothing to do with photographic or cinematographic image rendering. That is precisely the problem, it looks great to the eye but photographs yellow or red or blue.  

Edited January 23, 2017 by hmathias

[waterlenz]

"CRI" is a standard description of Visible light rendering (visible by means of the human eye) color light balance, CRI has nothing to do with photographic or cinematographic image rendering. That is precisely the problem, it looks great to the eye but photographs yellow or red or blue.  

Is there a standard for sensors? A problem is that different sensors see the same light differently. Underwater videographers seem to like the Keldan lights - they are easy to ID in a shot of a diver using one or more typically two and sometimes more.

 

I will say this - the light from tungsten lights is much easier to look at then that from LED lights. I do not have the high CRI variety. I use them mainly as focusing lights for my underwater photography so as long as the AF sensor sees them that is OK. They might be OK for black and white photography.

Edited January 23, 2017 by waterlenz

[dkmoore]

Not the finest pictures but the first chance I have had to walk around and take some pictures. It was after 5PM when I reached Syracuse so pictures are high ISO. The M10 files take a load of abuse. I spent about an hour as the sun was setting at Syracuse U.

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[dkmoore]

Minimal processing because these won't be printed or shared other than test shots.

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[dkmoore]

Jpegs may not be the finest examples. Just enjoy being part of the forum! 

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[BerndReini]

I played with an M10 at the Leica store today, and I am very impressed. The smaller size is much more noticeable than specs would make it seem. The camera is absolutely beautiful and incredibly responsive (buffer etc.), and the files are really impressive. These were taken under really tough conditions to give me a feel how the camera handles these extremes. These are not pictures I would usually post, but I think they can offer some good insights.

 

This first one was taken at ISO 3,200 then pushed another +1.3 stops in Lightroom (Exposure +1.3) and highlights adjusted -45. It shows a wide variation of color temperature and EV, and the camera handles the range admirably.

 

 

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Edited January 23, 2017 by BerndReini