Herr Barnack Posted December 10, 2016 Share #1 Posted December 10, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica M10 Could Be Announced January 18, 2017http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/12/leica-m10-jan-18-2017/ So it appears that sometime in January, the M10 will be dropped on the market. If that turns out to be true, the model designation progression from the M9P forward will be (admittedly not necessarily in the correct order) - M Monochrom (18 mp) M240 M-A M-P 240 M-D M typ 262 Monochrom typ 246 (24 mp) - and next we will (apparently) have the M10. Then there's this - if the original naming protocol would have been adhered to, the M10 would have been the M17. I am at a loss to understand why there was the model naming jaunt off into the seven above names. I also fail to understand why the above M camera naming protocol was not adhered to, but was abandoned in favor of returning to the original naming protocol and naming the next new release the M10. Does anyone else understand the thinking behind the two changes in the M camera naming protocol? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 Hi Herr Barnack, Take a look here Leica's M camera naming protocol??. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pop Posted December 10, 2016 Share #2 Posted December 10, 2016 I think this kind of discussion would be more useful if we actually knew whether there really was to be a new M type camera, and what its name would actually be. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 10, 2016 Share #3 Posted December 10, 2016 So it appears that sometime in January, the M10 will be dropped on the market. If that turns out to be true, the model designation progression from the M9P forward will be (admittedly not necessarily in the correct order) - M Monochrom (18 mp) M240 M-A M-P 240 M-D M typ 262 Monochrom typ 246 (24 mp) - and next we will (apparently) have the M10. Then there's this - if the original naming protocol would have been adhered to, the M10 would have been the M17. I am at a loss to understand why there was the model naming jaunt off into the seven above names. I also fail to understand why the above M camera naming protocol was not adhered to, but was abandoned in favor of returning to the original naming protocol and naming the next new release the M10. Does anyone else understand the thinking behind the two changes in the M camera naming protocol? Is there any reason that we need to understand? A Rose by any other name... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anickpick Posted December 10, 2016 Share #4 Posted December 10, 2016 I do not think Leica has had a coherent strategy in this regard over the last five years. Or maybe they just want to keep us occupied, just as when god created the banana: This will keep those dimwits occupied for a while. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267229-leicas-m-camera-naming-protocol/?do=findComment&comment=3163885'>More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted December 10, 2016 Share #5 Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) I do not think Leica has had a coherent strategy in this regard over the last five years. It wasn't coherent from the start... when Leica I was named Leica A in USA... should have they maintained the original numbering in Roman numbers... well I think that the next M ought to be probably named almost exactly Leica L ... Edited December 10, 2016 by luigi bertolotti Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted December 10, 2016 Share #6 Posted December 10, 2016 I think this kind of discussion would be more useful if we actually knew whether there really was to be a new M type camera, and what its name would actually be.For me it doesn't matter what they call the camera, as long as M appears somewhere... Regarding naming convention, look to IKEA for some splendid ideas... bookcases with names normally associated with humans. Imagine the next M (if and when it arrives) called Hermann (or Herrmann)! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikiphoto Posted December 10, 2016 Share #7 Posted December 10, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Imagine the next M (if and when it arrives) called Hermann (or Herrmann)! My Three Legged Thing tripod is called Albert; yes, really, that's how they name their models. The one before that was called Brian.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted December 10, 2016 Share #8 Posted December 10, 2016 ....Regarding naming convention, look to IKEA for some splendid ideas... Leica did use five letter codes which somewhat reminded one of words. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted December 10, 2016 Share #9 Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) Oscar would be appropriate... Or possibly Oskar! (Sorry Oskar if you're reading this from above.) Edited December 10, 2016 by Steve Ricoh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted December 10, 2016 Is there any reason that we need to understand? A Rose by any other name... Need? Well, if you're going to be that way about it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 10, 2016 Share #11 Posted December 10, 2016 Do you all think of your cameras as masculine? Vera or Ethel sound quite appropriate to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted December 10, 2016 Share #12 Posted December 10, 2016 That link is a very odd one and a rumour quoting someone else's rumour! How strange to talk about a successor to the M9, ignoring all of the M cameras since. Just about that rumoured name going back to their old naming convention I guess. That wasn't strictly just a sequence from the start of course and variations using the same name differentiated by an extra letter or just by a separate model number or Typ or even just unofficial additions have been used for a long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted December 10, 2016 Share #13 Posted December 10, 2016 Do you all think of your cameras as masculine? Vera or Ethel sound quite appropriate to me. Great idea for Leica to make a few extra euros, just send your pride and joy and have it rebadged with a male or female name of your choice. My wife tells me if it's good at multitasking it should have a feminine name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat Posted December 11, 2016 Share #14 Posted December 11, 2016 In the M series first there was the M3. Then the M2. Then the M4. (Ignoring the "MD" type specialized M's). Then the M5. Then the M4-2. The "4" was followed by the "6". So who knows. We're lucky we're where we are today. The Edsel of Leicas - the ill-fated M5 - darn near doomed the entire line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 11, 2016 Share #15 Posted December 11, 2016 Forgetting the M1 Which was not really an M camera, but it came after the M2. And the the MD. And Reporter. Which all goes to show that there is no protocol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 11, 2016 Share #16 Posted December 11, 2016 Do you all think of your cameras as masculine? Kamera (German) is feminine. Leica's are girlie cameras? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted December 11, 2016 Share #17 Posted December 11, 2016 Improve electronics of M and name it .... ..... wait for it.... Carmen Electra I will buy it in an instant. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted December 11, 2016 Share #18 Posted December 11, 2016 I remember reading when the M was released that Leica dropped the numbers because they could update the M body as new technology became available. Thus a 2017 M would have the latest advances when compared to a 2015 M. Probably an engineering concept that marketing vetoed as soon as they heard about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted December 11, 2016 Share #19 Posted December 11, 2016 I think of my camera as femomasculine. I treat it gently, but expect it to work in all conditions. Reckon Leica have got a problem with naming the derivatives...we will just have to put up with what Andreas and the Board want... all best... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted December 11, 2016 Share #20 Posted December 11, 2016 When in the past Leica have been asked about the possible (foreseeable) confusions in their 'new' naming policy (M240, etc.) have said it would all be fine and they knew what they were doing. So should the next camera be called the M10 the question is what about the one after that? I vote for the M102mm3, followed by maybe an M101a , then the M103m-d2, and before you know it there will be a camera range back on track and happy we all know what the numbering means, except the public won't, but who cares about them? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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