ELAN Posted December 8, 2016 Share #1 Posted December 8, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I love my 28mm Summilux-M f/1.4. I've had it for 15 months now and shot well over ten thousand frames with it. It renders beautifully and has rewarded me with many great photographs. But..... after a full day roaming the streets its weight and bulk takes a toll. I bump it more easily and I can feel the weight, and my M feels unbalanced carrying it all day. Recently I have opted to go out with the 35 FLE for its size and ergonomics even though (IMHO) it doesn't draw as nicely as the 28 Lux (or the 50 Lux), and is less suitable for my street roaming. I therefore would like to buy another, smaller, 28mm lens to take on full day street walks. I have read all I can about the Summicron, the Elmarit, and now the lovely Summaron and I just can't make up my mind which to get. The Summicon sounds great. I hear it draws like the 50 Lux, which I absolutely adore. But I think it's still a little big. Does it feel bigger than the 35 FLE? The Elmarit also has great reviews, and I love the size, but the forum is full of people who switched from the Elmarit to the Summicron because of how the later renders. Then there's this new sexy Sammaron. There aren't a lot of sample images yet so it's hard to tell if it will work for me, and f/5.6 seems a little limiting indoors and at dusk. I might get it just because it's so cool, but it's probably not the 28mm I'm looking for. So there, I want a 28 that feels like the 35 FLE, or smaller, and draws like the 50 Lux, or closest to the 28 Lux. What would you recommend? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 8, 2016 Posted December 8, 2016 Hi ELAN, Take a look here 28 lens in addition to the 28 Lux. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
luigi bertolotti Posted December 8, 2016 Share #2 Posted December 8, 2016 By logic, the compact modern alternative is the Elmarit 28 asph... but if I were you, I'd consider seriously a sort of different alternative like the very light and compact Voigtlander 25mm... for Street photo you probably can renounce to the external VF. But I have not it, and neither the Lux 50 Asph and Lux 28, so about the rendering comparision you wrote of , have nothing to say... but lot of reports about can be found easily. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duoenboge Posted December 8, 2016 Share #3 Posted December 8, 2016 Hi The Summicron 2/28 is very similar in size and weight to the Summilux 1.4/35. Even a little bit shorter and with 60g less weight. I use the Summilux and its great. I don´t feel really the weight. With a smaller lens like the 2/28 it could be even better I suppose. The Summaron looks very nice and it is made very nice. But the optical characteristics make it as a glass for very special applications. The combination of fantastic sharpness with the extremely falloff make a very strange impression. It´s nothing modern and nothing old. I tested it on my M(240) in Wetzlar. It´s a pity because it is really nice made. At the end the best compromise could be the Elmarit 2.8/28. Very small, with a perfect optical performance but not so fast. Make a good choise! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267175-28-lens-in-addition-to-the-28-lux/?do=findComment&comment=3162672'>More sharing options...
wattsy Posted December 8, 2016 Share #4 Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) I love my 28mm Summilux-M f/1.4. I've had it for 15 months now and shot well over ten thousand frames with it. It renders beautifully and has rewarded me with many great photographs. Then there's this new sexy Sammaron.... I might get it just because it's so cool, but it's probably not the 28mm I'm looking for. I think you should just stick to the lens you have got. If you like the image characteristics of the 28 Summilux so much why not continue to use it? After all, aren't the photographs the important consideration? It is one of the larger M lenses but it isn't so large that you need feel that you are suffering for your art. If, on the other hand, you are more interested in looking "cool" or earning gearhead brownie points then the Summaron is probably the current flavour of the month (or at least it was last month). Edited December 8, 2016 by wattsy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted December 8, 2016 Share #5 Posted December 8, 2016 The danger with getting another 28mm is that your 1.4 will just sit at home. In saying that, I've got some 'fast' lenses that I like to take out on their own, but if travelling & taking 2 or 3 lenses then I take several 'slower' (lighter) lenses. As you like the 35Lux do not rule out the Zeiss 28mm f2.8 as this renders (on digital Leica's) in the same way as the 35mm Lux. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted December 8, 2016 Share #6 Posted December 8, 2016 the weight ? for 50gr more or less ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 8, 2016 Share #7 Posted December 8, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) [...] I want a 28 that feels like the 35 FLE, or smaller, and draws like the 50 Lux, or closest to the 28 Lux. What would you recommend? [...] I can recommend both my 28/2 v2 and 28/2.8 aph. The former preferably if you don't intend to keep your 28/1.4. Or the 28/2.8 asph if you don't want to let your 28/1.4 in a drawer . Seriously i have no experience with the 28/1.4 but if i needed f/1.4 i would certainly keep it and choose the Elmarit asph for its smaller size in good light. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duoenboge Posted December 8, 2016 Share #8 Posted December 8, 2016 whats about the Leica Q? Its a 28 Summilux with a fix mounted camera behind. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted December 8, 2016 Share #9 Posted December 8, 2016 whats about the Leica Q? Its a 28 Summilux with a fix mounted camera behind. x2 The Q is a beast in low light and compliments your 50 lux perfectly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 8, 2016 Share #10 Posted December 8, 2016 Here is an endorsement for the Elmarit 28 ASPH - I have this lens and it is truly excellent. It is outstanding in terms of a do it all 28mm and it is as light as a feather compared to pretty much any of the Summiluxes. JMHO, but the ultimate wide angle set-up would be the 28 Elmarit and the 28 Summilux, backed up by the 21/3.4 Super Elmar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haljaberi Posted December 9, 2016 Share #11 Posted December 9, 2016 I don't believe weight is an issue of the Lux 28. Unless you want excuse to sell it for the new attractive Sammaron , this is another story. As for my opinion, I love my Lux28 and I didn't get any other lens as it satisfied my needs. Sent from my EVA-L19 using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted December 17, 2016 Share #12 Posted December 17, 2016 The new Summaron 28/5.6 M-Mount. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267175-28-lens-in-addition-to-the-28-lux/?do=findComment&comment=3168588'>More sharing options...
microview Posted December 17, 2016 Share #13 Posted December 17, 2016 The new Summaron 28/5.6 M-Mount. L1001115.jpg what more is there to say?! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted December 17, 2016 Share #14 Posted December 17, 2016 what more is there to say?! What exactly do you see there that I don't? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELAN Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share #15 Posted February 6, 2017 OP here... I finally decided on the new Summaron 28/5.6. Couldn't be happier. This lens is so tiny and it feels like you're just carrying the body. The rendering is beautiful too, quite sharp, and different than the Lux. Thanks to everyone who offered advise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted February 6, 2017 Share #16 Posted February 6, 2017 What exactly do you see there that I don't? I only know you from your comments in the forum so this is based on that thin evidence - beauty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted February 7, 2017 Share #17 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 28/2.8 asph. Tiny and good However for M9 or M10 a cron does meet your criteria. Looks very different than lux. Sharper and very sweet stopped down. Windswept Sentinals by unoh7, on Flickr Not small, not big. Easier to use than FLE or 50 Lux, as it has no mid-zone dip. DSC04183 by unoh7, on Flickr Hood upside down Hole in the Sky by unoh7, on Flickr On 240 some complain it's too clinical. Edited February 7, 2017 by uhoh7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted February 10, 2017 Share #18 Posted February 10, 2017 Hole in the Sky by unoh7, on Flickr Outstanding picture. Love the rocks appearance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted February 10, 2017 Share #19 Posted February 10, 2017 The danger with getting another 28mm is that your 1.4 will just sit at home. In saying that, I've got some 'fast' lenses that I like to take out on their own, but if travelling & taking 2 or 3 lenses then I take several 'slower' (lighter) lenses. As you like the 35Lux do not rule out the Zeiss 28mm f2.8 as this renders (on digital Leica's) in the same way as the 35mm Lux. My fast lenses tend to stay at home also so why buy them? 28 2.8 ASPH is a favorite as is 35 2.0 V4 for small size. Also love my two 50 2.8 elmar M Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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