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Gentlemen, please. These are just camera systems. Any member is free to post an opinion on them, whether that is a positive or a negative.

An explanation of the reasons not to buy/like any given camera is not to be taken as criticism of those who like/bought the gear.

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WOW! I have just stumbled into this thread. I can't believe the BS that is raging. Really, does anyone really know what they they are saying.

 

I do have to say that paulmac has really nailed it. His description is my experience EXACTLY, when it comes to wedding photography. I think I can claim more years of experience at it than him, but that is immaterial. His comments nail it.

 

It is not the camera you have , but how you use it. Most of my weddings were shot on Hasselblad, not because they shot better pictures, but because I 'felt good' using them. If I felt good, I performed better. Psychology. Latterly, I used Leica M's to shoot weddings, because my style of shooting changed. The M's 'guided' my style, but it was still me doing it. I feel good using Leicas too.

 

I am not familiar with Leica T cams but if push came to shove, I reckon I could shoot any assignment with any camera. Of course, I know only too well that the right tool for the job is easier than any other if you can choose.

 

Cameras are very personal tools and declaring that this one is better for that job than another is a declaration of naivety, or even ignorance. So express your opinions, but remember that that is all they are.

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Has anyone ever tried to photograph an top Photography For Events/wedding with a Leica T (TL)? 

 

I am currently using a combination of Canon 5d3 and Leica Q to shoot professionally. I'm hoping to to move away from SLR's but feel that autofocus is a must. Curious to hear opinions.

 

Hello,

 

The choice of cameras are so good they have the feature of taking pictures at wide angle and have up to 32X zoom. I also have a Canon EOS 1300D one of the best cameras that I ever used. I think you should this camera at least once....

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WOW! I have just stumbled into this thread. I can't believe the BS that is raging. Really, does anyone really know what they they are saying.

 

I do have to say that paulmac has really nailed it. His description is my experience EXACTLY, when it comes to wedding photography. I think I can claim more years of experience at it than him, but that is immaterial. His comments nail it.

 

It is not the camera you have , but how you use it. Most of my weddings were shot on Hasselblad, not because they shot better pictures, but because I 'felt good' using them. If I felt good, I performed better. Psychology. Latterly, I used Leica M's to shoot weddings, because my style of shooting changed. The M's 'guided' my style, but it was still me doing it. I feel good using Leicas too.

 

I am not familiar with Leica T cams but if push came to shove, I reckon I could shoot any assignment with any camera. Of course, I know only too well that the right tool for the job is easier than any other if you can choose.

 

Cameras are very personal tools and declaring that this one is better for that job than another is a declaration of naivety, or even ignorance. So express your opinions, but remember that that is all they are.

 

Fully agreed with this.

 

If the camera I own at the certain point in time is an M, it will be an M at an event or wedding. The senses of pre-empting and anticipating will be turned on full blast because as a photographer, you are well aware of the fantastic IQ but yet the technical limitations of the tool and yet you felt good using that equipment hence you bought it.  

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Fully agreed with this.

 

If the camera I own at the certain point in time is an M, it will be an M at an event or wedding. The senses of pre-empting and anticipating will be turned on full blast because as a photographer, you are well aware of the fantastic IQ but yet the technical limitations of the tool and yet you felt good using that equipment hence you bought it.  

+1 northernlights's comments

 

First, I would like to say that I am not a paid wedding photographer.  However, I had shot three weddings.

Here are my 2cents on this topic:

A wedding still-photography package in my neck of the woods usually consists of:

a.  on-location pre-wedding photoshoot

b.  'Bride/groom getting ready' on the wedding day photoshoot

c.  Wedding ceremony at church/temple in the morning photoshoot

d.  Wedding reception/party at a venue such as hotel's ballroom or restaurant photoshoot

All of the above events require more than one photographer plus multiple camera bodies and lenses plus lighting setups.  For each of the above four photoshoots, camera bodies, lenses, and lighting equipment are carefully selected.  If a Leica T plus a fast prime such as CV 35mm f/1.2 are selected during planning knowing its capabilities by the lead photographer, then Leica T it is :-)!

Hehe!  By this time, paid photographers would have already scratched their heads by reading this nonsensical statement.

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+1 northernlights's comments

 

First, I would like to say that I am not a paid wedding photographer.  However, I had shot three weddings.

Here are my 2cents on this topic:

A wedding still-photography package in my neck of the woods usually consists of:

a.  on-location pre-wedding photoshoot

b.  'Bride/groom getting ready' on the wedding day photoshoot

c.  Wedding ceremony at church/temple in the morning photoshoot

d.  Wedding reception/party at a venue such as hotel's ballroom or restaurant photoshoot

All of the above events require more than one photographer plus multiple camera bodies and lenses plus lighting setups.  For each of the above four photoshoots, camera bodies, lenses, and lighting equipment are carefully selected.  If a Leica T plus a fast prime such as CV 35mm f/1.2 are selected during planning knowing its capabilities by the lead photographer, then Leica T it is :-)!

Hehe!  By this time, paid photographers would have already scratched their heads by reading this nonsensical statement.

 

I am not professional too but have done some paid weddings and corporate events. I must admit actual day weddings were easier on Canon DSLR's I had then. I was one man and the fee was nothing to shout about obviously. I did a recent pre-wedding shoot outdoors done on my Sony A7ii with all manual glass. During Easter, I also did a hotel marketing event involving the spread, decors and an actual event involving kids scrambling for hidden Easter eggs, story telling etc without explicitly showing faces ( obviously Personal Data Protection Act). I did that assignment on an M240 and a few M lenses. Now I have sold all of that at a gain and downsized to a brand new T (at an Aussie shop at AUD999 and got it shipped to Singapore) with a 1.5x crop sensor and not owning a single T lens as yet until I am pretty clear. I bought the Visoflex and the Leica M-L adaptor though.

 

But a tool is a tool. I was apprehensive on the Easter egg chase segment but I got some shots by knowing where the eggs were and cheated but getting some kids to pose looking under cushions and delivered the assignment to the hotel and got paid.

 

Yeah..but a DSLR would have done the job much easier. But I wouldn't enjoy the experience so much and for the large part of hobbyist street shooting most of the time, I did not need a DSLR.       

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You know what Gents, any camera can be put to good use at any event, however these are my views: -

 

I have probably done 20 or 30 weddings and all were done using medium format because it slowed you down to think about composition, and exposure, when we shot 120 roll and with only 10 images to a roll, you had to think about every shot.

 

I recently went to a wedding and was gobsmacked to see 2 photographers with hipster style belts with 3 cameras on each and when I asked them how many images they took, I was advised that each of them would shoot 1000-2000 images each!

 

Indeed a thinking photographer could use a T and get fantastic results, whereas a poor photographer using a high end medium format would get terrible results.

 

In my opinion I would always opt to use the largest sized CCD that I could effectively use, something like Blad X1D/Leica SL or Phase One, because I genuinely feel that medium format whether film or digital gives better skin tones and depth of contrast.

 

When I was taught photographer 35+ years ago, I was taught to take your time, use your feet and use your feet! That still holds true today.

 

My son is getting married next year and I have suggested to them that when they select their photographer to make sure they identify what format the photographer will be shooting on and then look at their portfolio.

 

Just my thoughts.

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Do you quiz your dentist on what drill he will use?

Do you cross examine your surgeon on the size of his scalpel?

Or do you determine the quality of their work and ask for a track record of success and failure?

 

Why care what camera your wedding photographer will use, other than out of curiosity?

Examine his/her past work, seek old clients for feedback and know the consistent standard he/she produces.

How it is achieved is immaterial. It is only the result that you are buying, not the gear!

 

I speak as one who has shot thousands of weddings on medium format and later switched to 35mm (Leica).

Fashions change, tastes change, styles change. Photographers must keep abreast of those changes and adapt their techniques accordingly. The reason I downsized (format) from MF to 35mm (for weddings) was because expectations of shooting style were changing. Shooting MF is quite different from shooting 35mm and the results mirror the difference.

 

Direct the photographer as to the style you want, but let him/her decide how to achieve it.

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Some further thoughts on my comments in the post above.

Always have backup/spares of all gear you intend to use.

Breakdowns do happen, the only question is when. Never convenient.

 

Probably the most important factor in shooting weddings is crowd control/people management.

Your gear and it's use should be second nature to you, allowing you to 'focus' on the people involved, and the crowd of guests.

How you conduct yourself in this situation is paramount.

I suggest going to watch the work of your selected photographer in and outside the church if possible. See how he/she conducts their  work.

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I really don't know exactly how other people are doing with wedding photography and the T, but it's going along with me and my Fuji X cameras to any weddings I have this year. You don't have to have just one tool...

 

I specifically got the T with 11-23 because I wanted a wide-angle lens, and I wanted something with a different "look" from my X cameras. It'll be fun!

 

- Dana

 

 

http://www.percolatingpixelphotos.com

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Erl, If I was qualified as a dentist/Surgeon then I would ask certain questions about their procedures and equipment.

 

It comes without question that I would seek out proof of their abilities and track record.

 

With photography it is too late after the image has been taken and were they to advise me that they were shooting on an instamatic camera they they would not get the job, similarly with some cameras I just don't like the images produced, I generally can distinguish between medium format and cropped format, and therefore what camera they use does determine my choice of photographer.

 

I do however agree that for candids and difficult shots in close proximities to the subjects that a wide angled light weight camera can produce the goods.

 

We all have different standards and different ideas, that's what makes the world go round, what might be right for me might not be right for you and vica versa.

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jkulin, with respect, I think you missed the point of my comments.

Summarized, I was saying don't tell the professional (any professional) how to do their job.

Question as much as you like the result they are able to produce, but let them decide how best to achieve it. That is their job.

If it takes an instamatic, what the hell, if, yes if, that gets the picture, that is all you are buying.

 

If you are hung up on what gear was used, maybe you are missing how good the picture really is.

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Erl,

 

No I didn't miss your point, I fully understand it, as I said I would always check what gear was used and evaluate that against their proven results, but in deciding who to go to in the first instance I would decide against what equipment they used and yes if they used an instamatic I wouldn't use that photographer.

 

And no with regards to photographer or indeed any other hobby that I am well versed it, then I would want to see the tools of their trade in my initial decision.

 

Look, we are probably never going to agree, neither is right or wrong, we both have a different opinion, so why don't we let the matter drop and agree to disagree?

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Erl,

 

"No I didn't miss your point, I fully understand it, as I said I would always check what gear was used and evaluate that against their proven results, but in deciding who to go to in the first instance I would decide against what equipment they used and yes if they used an instamatic I wouldn't use that photographer.

 

And no with regards to photographer or indeed any other hobby that I am well versed it, then I would want to see the tools of their trade in my initial decision.

 

Look, we are probably never going to agree, neither is right or wrong, we both have a different opinion, so why don't we let the matter drop and agree to disagree?"

 

 

Sigh... Clients don't ask you what gear you use, unless they are tech nerds. I have NEVER had a client ask me if I used Canon L lenses, or Sony full frame (etc). Never. Frankly, also, it's none of their business anymore than it would have been The Pope's business asking Michelangelo what kind of brushes or chisels he used. The end result is all that matters. Truthfully, I think if a client asked me what gear I was using I'd ask their preference and then charge them extra for whatever the cost to rent that particular gear from Lens Rental. If a Kodak Instamatic is what is required for a particular shoot, then that's my call. 

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Erl,

 

"No I didn't miss your point, I fully understand it, as I said I would always check what gear was used and evaluate that against their proven results, but in deciding who to go to in the first instance I would decide against what equipment they used and yes if they used an instamatic I wouldn't use that photographer.

 

And no with regards to photographer or indeed any other hobby that I am well versed it, then I would want to see the tools of their trade in my initial decision.

 

Look, we are probably never going to agree, neither is right or wrong, we both have a different opinion, so why don't we let the matter drop and agree to disagree?"

 

 

Sigh... Clients don't ask you what gear you use, unless they are tech nerds. I have NEVER had a client ask me if I used Canon L lenses, or Sony full frame (etc). Never. Frankly, also, it's none of their business anymore than it would have been The Pope's business asking Michelangelo what kind of brushes or chisels he used. The end result is all that matters. Truthfully, I think if a client asked me what gear I was using I'd ask their preference and then charge them extra for whatever the cost to rent that particular gear from Lens Rental. If a Kodak Instamatic is what is required for a particular shoot, then that's my call. 

 

As I said: -

 

"Look, we are probably never going to agree, neither is right or wrong, we both have a different opinion, so why don't we let the matter drop and agree to disagree?"

 

Just to add I had a good number of commercial client insist on what format I shot with and even down to whether I shot on a Blad or RB, so yes clients do ask what equipment you use.

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"Just to add I had a good number of commercial client insist on what format I shot with and even down to whether I shot on a Blad or RB, so yes clients do ask what equipment you use." I kind of thought this thread  was about weddings, and if commercial clients "" are asking you about the brand of camera you are you using, they have a stick up their ass. Like I said though, I'd be happy to use whatever the client wanted, as long as the client pays for the rental.

 

"Why yes, dear Cosmo, I DO use full-frame still cameras. I am quite happy with my Contax N1."

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...

 

I'd wager that most brides and their families do not know one end of a camera from another - and even less about using them. If they're happy with sample albums and the price is right they'll likely hire most experienced photographers regardless of camera used. 

 

dunk 

 

- Hear hear!

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As a working wedding photographer this thread is both ludicrous and hilarious at the same time. Given the title I though more than a couple of contributors here might actually be talking about wedding photography.....

 

Keep going. I have popcorn......

 

Great fun.

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As a working wedding photographer this thread is both ludicrous and hilarious at the same time. Given the title I though more than a couple of contributors here might actually be talking about wedding photography.....

 

Keep going. I have popcorn......

 

Great fun.

Well, I wish your post had been helpful instead of ridiculously sarcastic. Did YOU want to talk about actual "" wedding photography? Please do.

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Well, I wish your post had been helpful instead of ridiculously sarcastic. Did YOU want to talk about actual "" wedding photography? Please do.

 

You guys seem to have taken your sides. I don't think I'd sway any opinions so I'm just enjoying the show. But feel free to ask if you have any questions.

 

Gordon

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