LUF Admin Posted November 8, 2016 Share #1 Posted November 8, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) … more details to follow. Beside the name the most important news are: - Titanium finish Leica TL - Internal buffer size increased to 32 MB (was 16 MB) More improvements - unsure if this is done via firmware: - Improved AF-C performance - Optimised compatibility with lenses from other Leica camera systems Plus a new Leica TL app, now available for Android too. More to come later today! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266320-new-leica-tl-system-announced/?do=findComment&comment=3144590'>More sharing options...
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washingtonydc Posted November 8, 2016 Share #2 Posted November 8, 2016 The website is live now: https://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-TL/Leica-TL-System 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted November 8, 2016 Share #3 Posted November 8, 2016 If the improved autofocus AF-C performance as well as the support of S lenses with OIS function is due to a software upgrade, it ought to function on the T as well, or? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUF Admin Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share #4 Posted November 8, 2016 If the improved autofocus AF-C performance as well as the support of S lenses with OIS function is due to a software upgrade, it ought to function on the T as well, or? Hopefully - I've sent this question to Leica. Will keep you informed... Here is the full article with some images: » NEW LEICA TL SYSTEM ANNOUNCED Andreas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 8, 2016 Share #5 Posted November 8, 2016 Disappointing that Leica haven't decided to develop the T line, but have just issued the same camera with a light makeover. On the other hand, given that sales of such cameras are largely in decline maybe they need to eek out more from their initial investment, but the problem with that is, the T now looks a rather dated proposition and misses some pretty standard features such as auto sensor cleaning. But the new colour is nice! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 8, 2016 Share #6 Posted November 8, 2016 I don't see any "improvement" inside the camera such as sensor, etc... and I really don't care about more interior memory since I never use it anyway; so, there is no reason for me to give more money to Leica and "upgrade" my T! Adding an "L" to "T" is not an upgrade to me! ... I am very disappointed of Leica! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted November 8, 2016 Share #7 Posted November 8, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Cup half empty: this appears to be a minor hardware and firmware upgrade unless you regularly forget to put a card in. Another colour and a name change. If there was an increase in response/EVF speed, I think it would have been mentioned. Cup half full: continuing commitment to the system by Leica, not the discontinuation feared by some people. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papimuzo Posted November 8, 2016 Share #8 Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) I^m a little bit disappointed, but at least, the T is still living. I'm wondering why they declared the T line discontinued sometimes ago?? Still hoping for more deep improvments next years... Houps LocalHero you beat me... Edited November 8, 2016 by papimuzo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelU Posted November 8, 2016 Share #9 Posted November 8, 2016 I don't see any "improvement" inside the camera such as sensor, etc... and I really don't care about more interior memory since I never use it anyway; so, there is no reason for me to give more money to Leica and "upgrade" my T! Adding an "L" to "T" is not an upgrade to me! ... I am very disappointed of Leica! This increased internal memory is useless if the internal speed of the camera remains as it is in the current T. I never used it as it is by far too slow. If there is no better processor in the TL we just get a new color, one more letter in the name and useless memory offered. This is very disappointing. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 8, 2016 Share #10 Posted November 8, 2016 BTW, I know people who have been waiting for the "New" T and would be very disappointed, going now toward another brand. From what I am hearing, I believe Fuji X-T2 would be the great beneficiary! ... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBK Posted November 8, 2016 Share #11 Posted November 8, 2016 Given they are still releasing new TL lenses lately, they need some non-discontinued cameras to sell with them. This is quite disappointing. 2016:Instax camera for 3x the priceRe-issue of a slow 28mm lens for 3x the price New color Q for 5% higher price Re-issue of the discontinued T line as the TL, presumably for higher than the last T prices before they left shelves This kind of stuff really gets to a lot of the criticism of Leica and Leica users. Emperors new clothes type stuff, and we are the marks. Leica makes so much great gear, but in 2016 this does not appear to be the companies focus. Many were hoping for an M announcement, X line update, T update, or maybe a Q with another focal length. Instead they are trying to pick the pockets of their users further, without delivering us anything actually new. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 8, 2016 Share #12 Posted November 8, 2016 I^m a little bit disappointed, but at least, the T is still living. I'm wondering why they declared the T line discontinued sometimes ago?? Still hoping for more deep improvments next years... Houps LocalHero you beat me... They only discontinued the previous model. They had announced new lenses so it was highly unlikely that they would discontinue a camera but introduce new lenses for it at the same time. I was expecting to see a new kind of T camera, like a mini SL. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveBK Posted November 8, 2016 Share #13 Posted November 8, 2016 Exactly. I was really looking for something to shoot 50mm-ish equivalent with AF, and maybe decent video. I love my Q. I want something as enjoyable to use @ the 50mm mark. I do have an M240 I enjoy, but I want a longer lens AF as well.. I am toying with m4/3 right now as it is cheap, small, great AF, IBIS, and great video, but its not nearly as enjoyable. X line is 35mm equiv and not fast enough AF (coming from Q & m4/3). SL is waaay too big/heavy for me. (NOTE I said FOR ME. It is perfectly fine weight/size given its pro market target) Existing T didn't excite me at all, especially at the price. TL rebake for more $$ is even worse. They only discontinued the previous model. They had announced new lenses so it was highly unlikely that they would discontinue a camera but introduce new lenses for it at the same time. I was expecting to see a new kind of T camera, like a mini SL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted November 8, 2016 Share #14 Posted November 8, 2016 If the S to SL adapter would work on this new TL, I'd consider the brown one. I'm not bothered by Leica not making a new M, completely new TL or whatever this year, I'm still very pleased with what I have. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 8, 2016 Share #15 Posted November 8, 2016 Cup half full: continuing commitment to the system by Leica, not the discontinuation feared by some people. ... and the Titanium version does NOT cost more than the others !!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learner Posted November 8, 2016 Share #16 Posted November 8, 2016 Luigi... Do the T and the TL have exactly the same shape and dimensions? John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUF Admin Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share #17 Posted November 8, 2016 If the improved autofocus AF-C performance as well as the support of S lenses with OIS function is due to a software upgrade, it ought to function on the T as well, or? Info from Wetzlar: Leica is working on a Leica T firmware update which incorporates these improvements. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted November 8, 2016 Share #18 Posted November 8, 2016 ... and the Titanium version does NOT cost more than the others !!! Why should one gram of brown paint increase the price? :-) J Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted November 8, 2016 Share #19 Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Question: will the TL firmware (or the new T firmware) allow to disable the "exposure simulation" when necessary (use with studio flashes) ? robert Edited November 8, 2016 by robert blu Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenper Posted November 8, 2016 Share #20 Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Lovely... I´m still using M9 and MM1; kind of anticipated a NEW T, with a new, Q-like built-in EVF instead of the current Rube Goldberg contraption, which may have tempted me a lot. No way, this is just the old T with a few cosmetic changes. So, M9 and MM1, I´ll stay with you, and be very happy with your features and performance! Edited November 8, 2016 by elgenper 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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