evikne Posted June 22, 2020 Share #721 Posted June 22, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 12 minutes ago, newnew said: Roses in wineyards, against Jura background. MP 240 with Summicron 50 V 4 canada Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Wonderful colors and bokeh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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newnew Posted June 22, 2020 Share #722 Posted June 22, 2020 Thank you. this modest lens keeps giving me a lot of nice surprises. It is coded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyfrank Posted June 22, 2020 Share #723 Posted June 22, 2020 6 hours ago, evikne said: A picture I took with my new copy the other day. I love to shoot fully open to bring out the gorgeous Mandler bokeh, but sometimes I stop down a little too. M10 with 35 Summicron IV Exactly! It is lovely wide open. It is lovely slightly stopped down. It always yields character quite different and special, ah the green and blues while I also love it's B&Ws. Small. Goes easily along anywhere. Okay, guess it stays. In all honesty, so far and despite 'fits' of must-sell moments, I have only sold one Leica lens out of...embarrassing to say. 😁 Regards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnew Posted June 25, 2020 Share #724 Posted June 25, 2020 This is Summilux 50 version 2 from 1964 full open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=3998874'>More sharing options...
pattyfrank Posted June 25, 2020 Share #725 Posted June 25, 2020 Living and dying Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10-P, Noctilux-M 1:1/50, v4 Patty Frank Photography 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10-P, Noctilux-M 1:1/50, v4 Patty Frank Photography ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=3999036'>More sharing options...
Arrow Posted June 25, 2020 Share #726 Posted June 25, 2020 SL, Lux 75. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=3999306'>More sharing options...
pattyfrank Posted June 25, 2020 Share #727 Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Promised IV Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10-P, Summicron-M 1:2/50, v4 Patty Frank Photography Edited June 25, 2020 by pattyfrank 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10-P, Summicron-M 1:2/50, v4 Patty Frank Photography ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=3999337'>More sharing options...
fotografr Posted June 28, 2020 Share #728 Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) M10M, 90mm Elmarit (1998) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited June 28, 2020 by fotografr 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=4000991'>More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 29, 2020 Share #729 Posted June 29, 2020 8 hours ago, fotografr said: 90mm Elmarit (1998) Is this a Mandler lens indeed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted June 29, 2020 Share #730 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, otto.f said: Is this a Mandler lens indeed? Yes, it is. Here is a complete list. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Walter_Mandler Here's an additional reference. https://www.aphotovid.com/leica-90mm-elmarit-f2-8-lens-review/ Edited June 29, 2020 by fotografr 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted June 29, 2020 Share #731 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) OTOH, Erwin Puts (Lens Compendium, p. 173) credits the 90 Elmarit to "the Wetzlar designers (who) computed the 2.8/90 for the R again, and created the best 2.8/90mm ever in the Leica history (R or M)." His compact reference appendix also credits the design to ELW(etzlar). Op. cit. p. 219 Keep in mind that Leitz did run two separate lens design offices, until the "reunification" in Solms in the later 1980s. And they were offices or tallers - multiple designers working under the direction of a chief. Thus "Mandler era" does not automatically mean "Mandler-designed." It's my experience that the Leica Wiki is poorly curated and somewhat error-prone. And that there is a lot of "copy/paste" on the Internet in general when it comes to things like who designed which lenses - which leads to false mythologies perpetuated by sites with no authoritative knowledge. There are aspects to the Elmarit-R/M (1981/1991) imaging which are noticably different from the 1980 lens generation known to be Mandler/Canada designs, in color palette, contrast/clarity, and to some extent bokeh. But the lens layouts are rather similar: 3 or 4 elements in front of the aperture, and one behind (that also applies to other Leica teles - 135 and 180 f/2.8s). Split the second element of the EM into a cemented pair and one gets a rough approximation of the late Mandler non-APO 90 R/Ms (and for that matter the 90mm Summarits). If one assumes they also use the same glass types, not just similar shapes. Puts also points out that the absence of any UV-blocking cementing in the Elmarit R/M was partly responsible for its different color correction: "As the 4-element lens has no cemented surfaces, Absorban cannot be used to control color transmission and it has to be accomplished with several types of coating layers." op. cit. p. 174 So for me this is a question for which there is no authoritative answer. Edited June 29, 2020 by adan 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 29, 2020 Share #732 Posted June 29, 2020 47 minutes ago, adan said: There are aspects to the Elmarit-R/M (1981/1991) imaging which are noticably different from the 1980 lens generation known to be Mandler/Canada designs, in color palette, contrast/clarity, and to some extent bokeh. That is my feeling too. The 90 Elmarit‘s contrast is not exactly my image of a Mandler lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 29, 2020 Share #733 Posted June 29, 2020 A couple of images I took yesterday. Both taken with M10 and 50mm Summilux pre-ASPH (E46): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=4001432'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 29, 2020 Share #734 Posted June 29, 2020 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=4001434'>More sharing options...
Alberti Posted June 29, 2020 Share #735 Posted June 29, 2020 Chiaroscuro with neck sweat blockers from a restaurant in Montpellier, France Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M-P, 50mm Summicron 10 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M-P, 50mm Summicron ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=4001442'>More sharing options...
fotografr Posted June 29, 2020 Share #736 Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, otto.f said: That is my feeling too. The 90 Elmarit‘s contrast is not exactly my image of a Mandler lens. I am not an authority on who designed Leica lenses but every source I've been able to find online supports the contention that the 90 Elmarit M is a Mandler design. I also just checked with my longtime friend, Don Goldberg (DAG), who agrees that it is. I have sent an inquiry to my contact at Leica AG in Wetzlar and will let you know if I hear anything that contradicts this. There must be a definitive answer somewhere. Edited June 29, 2020 by fotografr 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 30, 2020 Share #737 Posted June 30, 2020 7 hours ago, fotografr said: I am not an authority on who designed Leica lenses but every source I've been able to find online supports the contention that the 90 Elmarit M is a Mandler design. I also just checked with my longtime friend, Don Goldberg (DAG), who agrees that it is. I have sent an inquiry to my contact at Leica AG in Wetzlar and will let you know if I hear anything that contradicts this. There must be a definitive answer somewhere. Seems like Mr Mandler agrees with you . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=4001639'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 30, 2020 Share #738 Posted June 30, 2020 Lately I’ve been a little in doubt about my Summilux 50/1.4 (3rd) too, because it was launched in 1994 whilst Walter Mandler retired in 1985. Someone else must have been involved in the last redesign, but I’ve never been able to figure out who. So it was reassuring to see it on Dr. Mandler’s own list. 😊 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 30, 2020 Share #739 Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) Maybe innovations in glass or coatings but with Mandler’s design and calculations. It was the decade when SchneiderKreuznach came up with the MC coating. Edited June 30, 2020 by otto.f Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted June 30, 2020 Share #740 Posted June 30, 2020 The teenage son's bedroom, M-E 220 + Summicron 4 35mm Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=4001727'>More sharing options...
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