tritentrue Posted January 24, 2018 Share #261 Posted January 24, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) 35mm Summicron-R v. 2 (E55) at f/2 . . . There is a characteristic to much of Leica's R glass in the late '70's to late '80's that I can see clearly with my eyes, but to which I cannot put an aptly descriptive word or phrase . . . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=3447076'>More sharing options...
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Csacwp Posted January 25, 2018 Share #262 Posted January 25, 2018 Does the Summicron v5 have the Mandler glow? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJohn Posted January 25, 2018 Share #263 Posted January 25, 2018 Does the Summicron v5 have the Mandler glow? In my opinion no but it makes up for it with some of the best micro contrast I’ve ever seen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tritentrue Posted January 25, 2018 Share #264 Posted January 25, 2018 80mm Summilux-R @f/1.6 . . . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=3447645'>More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted January 25, 2018 Share #265 Posted January 25, 2018 In my opinion no but it makes up for it with some of the best micro contrast I’ve ever seen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So as far as newer Mandler 50mm lenses go, I guess I should look for a mid-2000s Noctilux if I want glowy portraits but sharp stopped down images? Or maybe a Summilux Asph will suffice (not a mandler lens though). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJohn Posted January 25, 2018 Share #266 Posted January 25, 2018 I have a lux pre ASPH which I think has glow, sharpness and beautiful rendering of Bokeh Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted January 26, 2018 Share #267 Posted January 26, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) So as far as newer Mandler 50mm lenses go, I guess I should look for a mid-2000s Noctilux if I want glowy portraits but sharp stopped down images? Or maybe a Summilux Asph will suffice (not a mandler lens though). Definitely not the 50/1.4 Summilux-M asph if you want 'glowy' - it's far too flare-resistant, as is the f/1 Noctilux in my experience. I have a pre-asph 50/1.4 Summilux-M, which, for portraits of ladies of a certain age, is more 'forgiving' but offers a beautifully subtle glow, good acutance and contrast* and superb colours. *I prefer using the terms "acutance" and "contrast" to sharpness because they are quantifiable but "sharpness" isn't. Pete. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 26, 2018 Share #268 Posted January 26, 2018 Does the Summicron v5 have the Mandler glow? If "glow" means halos around highlights, definitely no, but very few Mandler lenses show that. As far as my lenses as concerned i have only one like that, the Summilux 35/1.4 pre-asph. Otherwise the Summicron 50/2 v5 is a typical Mandler lens indeed. It has the same optical formula as that of the 50/2 v4 and its IQ is almost the same with more resistance to flare due to different coatings presumably. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted January 26, 2018 Share #269 Posted January 26, 2018 glow as in veiling flair, like the Summilux 75mm Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpittal Posted January 26, 2018 Share #270 Posted January 26, 2018 Here are two I got today at Sloss Furnace Nat Historic Site (Birmingham, Alabama) with M246 and 75 Lux (probably at about 5.6), with yellow filter: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Old wooden foundry molds an apparent photo setup 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Old wooden foundry molds an apparent photo setup ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=3448085'>More sharing options...
lct Posted January 26, 2018 Share #271 Posted January 26, 2018 glow as in veiling flair, like the Summilux 75mm I don't know what "glow" means aside from halos around highlights and i don't see that effect out of my 75/1.4 v3 nor 50/2 v5 personally. None produces veiling flare when strong light sources are into the frame, only when they are outside the frame and then using a longer hood, a hand or a hat to make some more shade is generally enough to fix the issue. Better use an EVF then as flare can be difficult to anticipate with a rangefinder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR33 Posted January 26, 2018 Share #272 Posted January 26, 2018 M240 + R80 1.4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR33 Posted January 26, 2018 Share #273 Posted January 26, 2018 M9 + 50 Noct V4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tritentrue Posted January 28, 2018 Share #274 Posted January 28, 2018 80mm Summilux-R @f/2.8, cropped very slightly, shot from the only place I could get a clear shot, a moving escalator . . . Japanese idol girl group Akishibu Project . . . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266277-show-us-some-mandler-magic/?do=findComment&comment=3449705'>More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 28, 2018 Share #275 Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) Does the Summicron v5 have the Mandler glow? @ ƒ/2? I beg to differ. Very subtle but it's there. I had a series of head shots all B&W, and you can see it at cropped edges where it meets a background, if near-black. Not an undesirable effect at times.\ Edited January 28, 2018 by james.liam Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob L Posted January 28, 2018 Share #276 Posted January 28, 2018 "Glow" is Spherical Aberration. It usually shows in fast aperture lenses that do not have aspherical elements. The pre-aspherical Summilux 35 has a ton wide open. Any 50mm 1.4 double Gauss spherical design lens will have it. The Leica 50mm Summilux ASPH does not. That is why so many of the older designs like the 75/80 Summilux or the 50mm 1.5 Sonnars are said to have a "dual personality" - soft and glowy wide open and sharp stopped down. The new design Leica lenses are designed to be sharp wide open, not glowy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob L Posted January 28, 2018 Share #277 Posted January 28, 2018 The v4/5 Summicron, Zeiss 50 f/2 planar and similar lenses exhibit SA. wide open in harsh light, but they are not fast enough for it to be noticeable most of the time. 50mm needs 1.4 if you want "glow" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 28, 2018 Share #278 Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) With the Zeiss, I wonder if it may be more of a function of focus optimized for ƒ/2.8 (speculation re: 2/50 as this phenomenon is observed in the 1,5/50 and 2/35). Zeiss will adjust the focus of the Sonnar for 1,5 so the image does sharpen up somewhat, mitigating the perceived softness. Edited January 28, 2018 by james.liam Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 28, 2018 Share #279 Posted January 28, 2018 Not sure if optimization for f/1.5 changes spherical aberration. My ZM 50/1.5 is optimized at f/1.5 and shows a bit of "glow" in the sense of halos around highlights at full aperture, but less so than my Summilux 35/1.4 v2. Both work fine together in low light though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 28, 2018 Share #280 Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) Not sure if optimization for f/1.5 changes spherical aberration. My ZM 50/1.5 is optimized at f/1.5 and shows a bit of "glow" in the sense of halos around highlights at full aperture, but less so than my Summilux 35/1.4 v2. Both work fine together in low light though. I don't think it does either but the Nikon 50/1.2 is a good example. Loads of SA up to ƒ/2 (more than any modern Leica) but when you actually hit focus at ƒ/1.2, the image has a high level of resolution beneath the haze, that appears to diminish the impression of 'unsharpness' and 'glow'. Draws the eye into the detail. Adjusting the Zeiss for f/1,5 helps in this regard. Don't believe the Biogon 2/35 can be tweaked in this way for a RF. Edited January 28, 2018 by james.liam Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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