Mike Rawcs Posted September 25, 2016 Share #121 Posted September 25, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looks like this will be the announcement of two limited edition Q cameras. http://leicarumors.com/2016/09/24/leica-q-indonesia-edition-2016-camera.aspx/ Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted September 25, 2016 Share #122 Posted September 25, 2016 WOW! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 26, 2016 Share #123 Posted September 26, 2016 Looks like this will be the announcement of two limited edition Q cameras. http://leicarumors.com/2016/09/24/leica-q-indonesia-edition-2016-camera.aspx/ Mike. That's not what Rumors is indicating.....different posts that they have not linked together, even in the comments section. It's interesting that the event is called a 'preview'....might not be a release at all. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicapages Posted September 26, 2016 Share #124 Posted September 26, 2016 Didn't the R-system get it's continuation in the SL, 1+ years ago? A new M will come, but things takes time in Leica-land. I beg to differ. The R system got discontinued. Full stop. Subsequent developments, which allow for the use of R lenses, are not native but at the very least require adaptors - be it on the M or on the SL. Lack of native R mount hardly qualifies as continuation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted September 26, 2016 Share #125 Posted September 26, 2016 I beg to differ. The R system got discontinued. Full stop. Subsequent developments, which allow for the use of R lenses, are not native but at the very least require adaptors - be it on the M or on the SL. Lack of native R mount hardly qualifies as continuation. You are correct; R is and remains discontinued . From some user's perspective, the SL is a great platform for the (still) excellent R-optics. So SL may be used as a modern, workable alternative to the R-system. This is, at least, how I see it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 26, 2016 Share #126 Posted September 26, 2016 As an FYI, after 3 years (or so) the M240 IMHO is still lens dependent. i.e. the lens makes a bigger difference then the sensor No doubt the M260 will have more pixels, ISO and DR + some cool feature - but in the final analysis it'll be much less of an upgrade then the M240 was to the M9, or the M9 to the M8. As digital gets better we are now entering an incremental world of IQ where other factors (e.g. usability, joy, etc.) take priority over anyone's definition of straight IQ. Which is why the M240/262 could easily be my last digital camera. Except it won't as its inevitable I'll get the M260 at some point But will I really need it ??? rgds 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraval Posted September 26, 2016 Share #127 Posted September 26, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was at Photokina last Friday, at the leica booth. i was wearing one of my mechanical watches and...by chance one of the Leica guys was wearing exctly the same watch. We talked a lot on the virtues and pains of these particular brand of mechanical watches and then i shot THE question: "when will we see the next M ? You know my eyes are getting old and with my M9 i have focusing problems.." "Soon" he answered "what do you mean with soon? Weeks, months or years?" "weeks" was his answer - but no more details. another point: i was talking about buyig a Leica T for my wife and was complaining about the cost of the external viewfinder. the same guy said: "yeah, but i can assure you that you will use it with the next M". This could mean that the next M might not have an integrated EVF but will still use the external one, i do not know how trustworthy this answers are, but i just wanted to share them with you. regards franco PS: sorry for my poor English. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted September 26, 2016 Share #128 Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) Good news about a new M. The second comment about the EVF could mean several things: - the new M will use the old external EVF (ROTFLMAO). - the new M will use the current T's EVF.(LMAO). - the new M and a new T2 (?) will both use the same, new, EVF (the best of the three possibilities). Edited September 26, 2016 by LocalHero1953 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted September 26, 2016 Share #129 Posted September 26, 2016 be assured t Good news about a new M. The second comment about the EVF could mean several things: - the new M will use the old external EVF (ROTFLMAO). - the new M will use the current T's EVF.(LMAO). - the new M and a new T2 (?) will both use the same, new, EVF (the best of the three possibilities). Be reassured that, as before, whatever EVF the next M uses, it will be outdated technology on release ;-) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 26, 2016 Share #130 Posted September 26, 2016 Good news about a new M. The second comment about the EVF could mean several things: - the new M will use the old external EVF (ROTFLMAO). - the new M will use the current T's EVF.(LMAO). - the new M and a new T2 (?) will both use the same, new, EVF (the best of the three possibilities). It means the new M will use the T's EVF which is very good, although not market leading The EVF on the M is a frame tool for ultra wide or telephoto lenses. It is not meant to supplant the optical mechanical rangefinder for 28-135mm which is the main event Those who want an EVF CSC camera know where they can find one. Given that Leica spend 3 years designing the new M (and you can be assured if the M260 is about to be released they are already designing the M280) More interesting is that the EVF for the T is tiltable and has built in GPS. Finally IMHO it makes sense for Leica to make a splash announcing the new M and T in a separate conference after Photokina 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle123 Posted September 26, 2016 Share #131 Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) Oh, please, don't let a new M use the T EVF! Not unless is redesigned. As much of a T fan as I am, hate the look of EVF on the T. I use it but ...... And just how do we go from the 262 to the 260 as the new M? This numbering system is haywire. Edited September 26, 2016 by billinghambaglady Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted September 26, 2016 Share #132 Posted September 26, 2016 I think the EVF must be a new one, it doesn't make sense to use the old T's EVF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 26, 2016 Share #133 Posted September 26, 2016 Is there any significant difference between the T's (3.7MP) and the SL's (4.4MP) EVFs? Just curious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle123 Posted September 26, 2016 Share #134 Posted September 26, 2016 Is there any significant difference between the T's (3.7MP) and the SL's (4.4MP) EVFs? Just curious. Yes. I have seen both. The T EVF is gritty. The SL is darn clear. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted September 26, 2016 Share #135 Posted September 26, 2016 As digital gets better we are now entering an incremental world of IQ where other factors (e.g. usability, joy, etc.) take priority over anyone's definition of straight IQ. Exactly. An analogy is the development of inkjet printers. The revolution that took place some 5+ years ago - possibly materialised with the EPSON 2200 ("Ultra-high quality archival inkjet printing has truly arrived!") desktop printer - has now moved to more incremental improvements. Which is why the M240/262 could easily be my last digital camera. Except it won't as its inevitable I'll get the M260 at some point But will I really need it ??? Yes. And likely not. (answering for myself...). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted September 26, 2016 Share #136 Posted September 26, 2016 Oh, please, don't let a new M use the T EVF! Not unless is redesigned. As much of a T fan as I am, hate the look of EVF on the T. I use it but ...... And just how do we go from the 262 to the 260 as the new M? This numbering system is haywire. The new M has to start as a minimum of Typ 263. So what happened to the Typ 241-245 and 247-261? Are they all stored in a vault at Wetzlar, never to be released? What innovations might they have included? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted September 26, 2016 Share #137 Posted September 26, 2016 Yes. I have seen both. The T EVF is gritty. The SL is darn clear. And the SL is fast and has no blackout. The T was slow and had a blackout last time I looked. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted September 26, 2016 Share #138 Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) With all due respect, the M line is done. In other breaking news, North Korea's Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un has just announced that the Earth is not spherical but is in fact tetrahedral. Edited September 26, 2016 by Carlos Danger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M28 Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share #139 Posted September 27, 2016 Well the new M will come ewentually and i am sure it will be a great camera and will cause significant gas. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 27, 2016 Share #140 Posted September 27, 2016 Does this thread go away when the M280 is launched or does it morph into the M300 speculation thread ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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