Jeff S Posted December 19, 2016 Share #541 Posted December 19, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I meant it initially only as fun [and wonder how many people didn't recognize the 'Bam!' part as being onomatopoeic....hence the joke] Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 19, 2016 Posted December 19, 2016 Hi Jeff S, Take a look here New Leica M 240 follow-up in 2017 : The speculations.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Paulus Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share #542 Posted December 19, 2016 le You say tomato and I say ...... let's not go there. Let's do! Gershwin was a wonderful writer. Sometimes I love him more than the M 10 ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 19, 2016 Share #543 Posted December 19, 2016 I meant it initially only as fun [and wonder how many people didn't recognize the 'Bam!' part as being onomatopoeic....hence the joke] Jeff I think we all understood it was joke Jeff... well, all but one perhaps! Then it went downhill from there... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted December 19, 2016 Share #544 Posted December 19, 2016 https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VRIaBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA266&lpg=PA266&dq=onomatopeic&source=bl&ots=BLRyZXp942&sig=gdOnjHbbckAMXGzdqUXTdB0xGb4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmtsqM4oDRAhWHHxoKHeeUB884ChDoAQgoMAM#v=onepage&q=onomatopeic&f=false Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 19, 2016 Share #545 Posted December 19, 2016 But have a look at "Glousser" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 19, 2016 Share #546 Posted December 19, 2016 Well Peter K, I apologise... Nice source... "Verbs of Animal Communication in Contemporary French"... lol! I can't fault you for finding the most obscure possible reference! However, this is actually an academic study on the above subject, written by an author in their second language. It will not be the first, nor the last academic paper or treatise with consistent and inaccurate spelling of a particular word. I would find it far more compelling if there was a dictionary that you could point to... but in the absence of such a source, I will continue to believe that the word is spelled in the way shown by all the major dictionaries... and I am sure you will continue to accept the spelling you have used and then found... And it was a bit of a giggle on the way... which on a dull Christmas week, is fine.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 19, 2016 Share #547 Posted December 19, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) It is time that Leica comes up with something about the new M... The members are getting bored and wearisome... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted December 19, 2016 Share #548 Posted December 19, 2016 I would anticipate a UK price of c £5850 (to nudge this thread back to subject matter-natter-patter) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 19, 2016 Share #549 Posted December 19, 2016 It is time that Leica comes up with something about the new M... The members are getting bored and wearisome... Or Loeica perhaps? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted December 19, 2016 Share #550 Posted December 19, 2016 If a word appears in a book, particularly in the title, then the word is validated. Here's another example: http://www.tipitin.com/shop/b-side-of-onomatopeic-music-by-yuri-suzuki And another (from an Australian educational site): http://ildm34.global2.vic.edu.au/tag/onomatopeic/ So please would all the clever clogs who said I was wrong retract their statements. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 19, 2016 Share #551 Posted December 19, 2016 It is time that Leica comes up with something about the new M... The members are getting bored and wearisome... (and thank you for your knowledge of our language that is sophisticated enough to understand the difference in choosing to use the word 'wearisome' rather than 'tiresome'... ) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 19, 2016 Share #552 Posted December 19, 2016 If a word appears in a book, particularly in the title, then the word is validated. Here's another example: http://www.tipitin.com/shop/b-side-of-onomatopeic-music-by-yuri-suzuki And another (from an Australian educational site): http://ildm34.global2.vic.edu.au/tag/onomatopeic/ So please would all the clever clogs who said I was wrong retract their statements. I disagree with your first statement... of course.... because something is incorrectly spelled in a book, it doesn't then legitimise that spelling... that is just nonsense...! With regard to your last statement, have a look at my first reply to your reference... the very first line reads...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 19, 2016 Share #553 Posted December 19, 2016 Can anyone think of a word that describes the sound of a head hitting the desk as I lose the will to live? 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 19, 2016 Share #554 Posted December 19, 2016 If a word appears in a book, particularly in the title, then the word is validated. Here's another example: http://www.tipitin.com/shop/b-side-of-onomatopeic-music-by-yuri-suzuki And another (from an Australian educational site): http://ildm34.global2.vic.edu.au/tag/onomatopeic/ So please would all the clever clogs who said I was wrong retract their statements. You can't really be wrong on the question of the correct spelling of English words since English has no spelling authority, only records of common usage. That is one of the great strengths of the language, though I question the claims of authority of any body over any language. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 19, 2016 Share #555 Posted December 19, 2016 ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 19, 2016 Share #556 Posted December 19, 2016 Can anyone think of a word that describes the sound of a head hitting the desk as I lose the will to live?Badaboum... une onomatopée.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 19, 2016 Share #557 Posted December 19, 2016 Is precision in visual media like photographs more important than in verbal media? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted December 19, 2016 Share #558 Posted December 19, 2016 How swell t'would be to be an onomatopoet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 19, 2016 Share #559 Posted December 19, 2016 Anyone read "The Surgeon of Crowthorne"? A delightful beach read about the development of the OED. The underlying concept of the OED was to list the accepted usage of all English language words evidenced by published work (note "accepted usage"). The complete OED lists the authoritative contextual usage. Obviously, spelling mistakes in obscure books don't count, however consistently the word might be miss-spelt. Anyway, the single biggest individual contributor was an anonymous man called the surgeon of Crowthorne. It turned out he was serving life in prison for murder. Great read. Other obscure facts - the editor of the 1980s revision to the OED, Bob Birchfield, was from New Zealand (he went to school with my father); apparently the simplified spelling preferred by Americans (dropping the u in colour and favour etc) was a conscious decision by the first editors of Webster's dictionary. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 19, 2016 Share #560 Posted December 19, 2016 Anyone read "The Surgeon of Crowthorne"? A delightful beach read about the development of the OED. The underlying concept of the OED was to list the accepted usage of all English language words evidenced by published work (note "accepted usage"). The complete OED lists the authoritative contextual usage. Obviously, spelling mistakes in obscure books don't count, however consistently the word might be miss-spelt. Anyway, the single biggest individual contributor was an anonymous man called the surgeon of Crowthorne. It turned out he was serving life in prison for murder. Great read. Other obscure facts - the editor of the 1980s revision to the OED, Bob Birchfield, was from New Zealand (he went to school with my father); apparently the simplified spelling preferred by Americans (dropping the u in colour and favour etc) was a conscious decision by the first editors of Webster's dictionary. I haven't read that book, but I was aware of the deliberate simplification of the spelling advocated by Webster. It's interesting to me, though, that in many respects aside from this specific reform, and counter-intuitively for many people, American English is often more conservative than British English in that it has changed less over the centuries. That means that when Brits and others get snooty about "Americanisms" like vest or sidewalk and so on, they are overlooking the fact that these are usually far closer to their original (or at least older) meanings than the newer words we British prefer nowadays. Britishisms, if you like. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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