MediaFotografie Posted February 15, 2018 Share #601 Posted February 15, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) For comparisions, the APO-SL90 is double the price of a APO-M90. The price of APO-SL90 is $150 less than the SL50. here in Germany SL50 and SL90 have the same price... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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phongph Posted February 15, 2018 Share #602 Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Hi Friend, I managed aa few test shots...not the best of scene that may demonstrate the capabilities of this lens I think. My feel is the lens may be too sharp for some liking, like myself, my wife and brother who are all in the silver generation. Too clinical showing all the flaws of our complexion. For flowers, hmm... not too bad. I will post later. Pardon this novice still learning to manage photography. I just love the IQ and colour rendition of Leica. Ben Hi Bencychin!Many thanks for your sharing some picture of portrait and flowers! I like the render, skin tone and bokeh of this len. I am looking forwards to your more picture and comment! I wish the happy chinese new year 2018 to You and your family! Thanks! Edited February 15, 2018 by phongph Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted February 16, 2018 Share #603 Posted February 16, 2018 I was responding to someone who asked about the size of the 16-35, which is shown with 82mm filter size. Right you are. I was focused on the discussions regarding the new primes. Brain fade, apologies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted February 26, 2018 Share #604 Posted February 26, 2018 Perhaps I have been sleeping, but in case others have been sleeping as well, look at these SL+75Cron-L images: http://blog.leica-camera.com/2018/01/29/nepal-illuminated/ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted March 5, 2018 Share #605 Posted March 5, 2018 The 75SL and 90SL look both impressive! Anyone with experiences, thoughts and/or examples having 75SL and/or 90SL, compared with 24-90SL? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted March 5, 2018 Share #606 Posted March 5, 2018 The 75SL and 90SL look both impressive! Anyone with experiences, thoughts and/or examples having 75SL and/or 90SL, compared with 24-90SL? For starters, I only have the 75SL and not the 90SL and I do not have enough experience to judge the 75SL based on usage cause I've only used it once and I use it fully open. My intended purpose of usage of the lens is head shots to full body length portraiture so a nice bokeh is what I look for primarily. The 24-90mm on the other hand is a multipurpose lens to me. Quite often I do step it down on f8 till all the way. I honestly seldom use it on the longer focal length but do get nice bokeh as well when the subject is relatively small and shot near fully open. Perhaps a same appeture comparison @75mm on same subject would make a clinical comparison of both lenses. I foresee using lesser of 24-90mm after I get my hands on the 16-35mm and pair it with 75SL, but I may be wrong. Time will tell. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted March 5, 2018 Share #607 Posted March 5, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) For starters, I only have the 75SL and not the 90SL and I do not have enough experience to judge the 75SL based on usage cause I've only used it once and I use it fully open. My intended purpose of usage of the lens is head shots to full body length portraiture so a nice bokeh is what I look for primarily. The 24-90mm on the other hand is a multipurpose lens to me. Quite often I do step it down on f8 till all the way. I honestly seldom use it on the longer focal length but do get nice bokeh as well when the subject is relatively small and shot near fully open. Perhaps a same appeture comparison @75mm on same subject would make a clinical comparison of both lenses. I foresee using lesser of 24-90mm after I get my hands on the 16-35mm and pair it with 75SL, but I may be wrong. Time will tell. Yes, one can foresee that the combo 16-35SL + 70SL (or 90SL) may compete with the 24-90SL. Presently, I guess the SL+24-90 about 80 percent of the time. A marvellous and versatile lens being a zoom; and the 'correct' lens to be the first in the SL lens lineup. With three zooms and 4 primes available in 2018, more variations and specialisations are, of course, possible. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistairm Posted March 6, 2018 Share #608 Posted March 6, 2018 Yep absolutely. The system is coming forward nicely and can increasingly be tailored for what anyone needs. A teleconverter and a long focal length 1:1 macro (eg 180) would be awesome and a 500 f4 would likely cost $20k... but I’d buy it. I’ve owned a lot of lenses and I don’t think I’ve ever had a better all round one than the 24-90. Indeed, Leica is yet to release an SL lens that is anything short of class defining and I fervently hope it stays that way, that this lens mount remains in use for decades and that by the time we are buying our SL3 or SL4 bodies we are still amazed that these lenses can continue to test the capabilities of whatever modern sensor is put behind them. At this stage, I am happy to use M lenses when I need a smaller package, or even the superb TL lenses. I really hope Leica keeps every SL lens as a weather sealed, statement product. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted March 6, 2018 Share #609 Posted March 6, 2018 Yep absolutely. The system is coming forward nicely and can increasingly be tailored for what anyone needs. A teleconverter and a long focal length 1:1 macro (eg 180) would be awesome and a 500 f4 would likely cost $20k... but I’d buy it. I’ve owned a lot of lenses and I don’t think I’ve ever had a better all round one than the 24-90. Indeed, Leica is yet to release an SL lens that is anything short of class defining and I fervently hope it stays that way, that this lens mount remains in use for decades and that by the time we are buying our SL3 or SL4 bodies we are still amazed that these lenses can continue to test the capabilities of whatever modern sensor is put behind them. At this stage, I am happy to use M lenses when I need a smaller package, or even the superb TL lenses. I really hope Leica keeps every SL lens as a weather sealed, statement product. From the SL range, I only own the 90-280 and 75 and both are superb. I’d buy 500/4 too LOL ... although it would be extremely pricey as I can imagine. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoreserve Posted March 6, 2018 Share #610 Posted March 6, 2018 Yes, one can foresee that the combo 16-35SL + 70SL (or 90SL) may compete with the 24-90SL. Presently, I guess the SL+24-90 about 80 percent of the time. A marvellous and versatile lens being a zoom; and the 'correct' lens to be the first in the SL lens lineup. With three zooms and 4 primes available in 2018, more variations and specialisations are, of course, possible. For me the 16/35 (+75 or 90) won't compete with the 24/90: the maximum aperture @24-35mm would be really too slow (4.0-4.5 I guess) - without OIS! That's rather disappointing... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted March 6, 2018 Share #611 Posted March 6, 2018 For me the 16/35 (+75 or 90) won't compete with the 24/90: the maximum aperture @24-35mm would be really too slow (4.0-4.5 I guess) - without OIS! That's rather disappointing... To me it would be easier without stabilization in the 16-35mm as one would not have to remember to switch it off to be mounted on a tripod if it were there. For absolute stability, nothing beats the tripod and it is a necessity gear for landscape photography. As for hand held shots, I did not had problems shooting 12mm F5.6 VL lens on my SL. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relms Posted March 9, 2018 Share #612 Posted March 9, 2018 I just ran across this article and mini-review of the SL-90, and I am salivating looking at the images. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted March 9, 2018 Share #613 Posted March 9, 2018 walking around for two weeks with 90SL I like this lens very much. here're some mixed examples: https://adobe.ly/2ow4mBh nice rendering, awesome sharpness, fast AF 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbayon Posted March 12, 2018 Share #614 Posted March 12, 2018 Dear all, it is mentioned on the Leica official site that the Summicron 35 SL is an APO-Summicron one. Is it a typo mistake from the web master or finally is an Apochromatic lens like the others Summicron SL 50; 75; 90? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relms Posted March 17, 2018 Share #615 Posted March 17, 2018 From the SL range, I only own the 90-280 and 75 and both are superb. I’d buy 500/4 too LOL ... although it would be extremely pricey as I can imagine. Put me on the list for the 500 f/4. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phongph Posted March 17, 2018 Share #616 Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) walking around for two weeks with 90SL I like this lens very much. here're some mixed examples: https://adobe.ly/2ow4mBh nice rendering, awesome sharpness, fast AF Hi “mediafotografie”! They are very nice images from SL Apo 90 f2. Please post some portrait from this len if possible, eps. at f2. Many thanks! Edited March 17, 2018 by phongph Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencychin Posted March 18, 2018 Share #617 Posted March 18, 2018 Hi “mediafotografie”! They are very nice images from SL Apo 90 f2. Please post some portrait from this len if possible, eps. at f2. Many thanks! Dear friend, Your message to“mediafotografie” reminded me what I did not really do many portraits with SL75 @f2. Hmm...many of my easy subjects who were photographed did not agree to release their portraits because the lens is very unforgiving in sharpness. OK, got one permission for posting from my beloved daughter. Warm regards from sunny Singapore. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/264699-new-leica-sl-lenses-roadmap/?do=findComment&comment=3482649'>More sharing options...
phongph Posted March 18, 2018 Share #618 Posted March 18, 2018 Dear friend, Your message to“mediafotografie” reminded me what I did not really do many portraits with SL75 @f2. Hmm...many of my easy subjects who were photographed did not agree to release their portraits because the lens is very unforgiving in sharpness. OK, got one permission for posting from my beloved daughter. Warm regards from sunny Singapore. Hi Bencychin! Thanks for your portrait image from SL Apo 75 f2! I have got M50 Apo, but I can not take it for the portrait (for my home model) since It is too sharp/ unforgiving sharp for portrait. Someone said the all Leica Apo len will be not suitable for portrai and It may be right. I will re-think to take the SL Apo 90 for portrait. Ps: Currenlty, I have used the SL 24-90, M75 Lux for portrait. Have a nice day! Thanks! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencychin Posted March 18, 2018 Share #619 Posted March 18, 2018 Hi Bencychin! Thanks for your portrait image from SL Apo 75 f2! I have got M50 Apo, but I can not take it for the portrait (for my home model) since It is too sharp/ unforgiving sharp for portrait. Someone said the all Leica Apo len will be not suitable for portrai and It may be right. I will re-think to take the SL Apo 90 for portrait. Ps: Currenlty, I have used the SL 24-90, M75 Lux for portrait. Have a nice day! Thanks! A thought now come to my mind: We may be looking at the incorrect route towards beautifully rendered portraiture. Leica has reintroduced the speciality lens for this very purpose: THAMBAR - surely all my subjects will love teir dreamy looks! But ALAS! Very pricey for it too. I do agree M75Lux is value for money for its drawing. Cheers and have a great Sunday. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 18, 2018 Share #620 Posted March 18, 2018 I don't like many of the modern Leica lenses (50 Summilux ASPH or 50 APO Summicron onwards) for portraits. They are just too sharp and harsh. I much prefer my 50 Summilux III Pre-ASPH or yet older, a 1952 85mm/f1.5 Summarex or 1958 50mm/f1.5 Summarit. The Summarit in particular, is a coated version of the pre-war Xenon lens, which was originally designed by Horace William Lee of Taylor, Taylor and Hobson, specifically as a portrait lens for cine camera close-up use on faces. Due to the "interesting" spherical aberration correction, it has the most extraordinary swirly OOF/bokeh, even more extreme than the f1.2 Noctilux. Wilson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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