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Thinking of selling my M8 and some lenses..

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Renting isn't a bad idea, but the rental prices where I live are very high. An 1Ds Mark II and TSE 24mm alone would be at least 300 USD a day excluding taxes. A P45 back and a Hassy outfit with two lenses over 1000 USD a day excluding taxes.

An old 1Ds body might be an option for architecture? pretty damn cheap now, good resolution and 100% viewfinder..

 

Exactly....1Ds at ISO 100 is still a great camera for architecture - excellent value for money. I find it to be a delightful example for those who insist that all digital cameras become obsolete after a couple of years. One has the 100% finder indeed, as well as a built-in eyepiece shutter that is very useful. If you get a chance, reread the 5D article for some comparisons between the two. The 5D is vastly better, in my experience, hand-held at high ISO but its only advantage over the 1Ds (for slow paced tripod work at ISO 100) is its larger and sharper LCD screen (aka Polaroid back). Otherwise, I prefer the 1Ds series cameras for arch. especially because of the 100% finder.

 

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Sean

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I know a t/s lens is great but why not use a sharper and better lens than the tse 24mm and do the rest in PP?

 

Once you start shooting this stuff for clients you'll see why many of us (although not all) use shift lenses. I've been writing recently about exactly that question you just posed. And don't assume the Oly 24 Shift is better than the TS-E in all respects, that's actually not the case, as I recently discovered.

 

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Sean

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My 24 TSE is a very good sample apparently.

 

So is mine, apparently. Kind of makes a person wonder, doesn't it? <G> Having shot many thousands of dollars worth of client projects with the 24 TS-E since 2002 or so, I must say that I can't throw my lot in with those who call it a bad lens. It's no Zeiss 21 Biogon for resolution but boy does it get the job done and even the resolution 'ain't bad..

 

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Sean

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Just to fill in some details about a few items:

 

I suspect that there may be something to the posts that the 24 TSE has good and bad samples.

 

My assistant bought a 24 TSE about two weeks ago and didn't think it was as sharp as it should be. (He was used to seeing how well mine performed.) He sent it back and Canon adjusted it or replaced it. (It only took a few days.) We're planning to get together and compare our lenses. I wish we had done that before he sent it back because I really was curious how "bad" it was. But he didn't want to wait. So now if his lens is as good or better than mine, we'll just have to take his word that the original one (or before adjustment) was not very good.

 

On another note, the 1Ds has a 100% viewfinder but it has some barrel distortion that I have to compensate for when lining up vertical lines near the edge of the frame. (They won't line up.) The 5D finder is not 100% but is more rectilinear.

 

As for you Martin. I know this gear seems expensive. But how many businesses have so low an entry barrier as this? You don't need a degree, a license, an office, or much else besides a camera and one lens to get started.

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amen on that one, Alan. the last machine I recently bought (leased)cost $180k and I have to have several at similatr cost.

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Thanks a lot for all the answers! I'll have to think about Canon for a little while. Even though it's a good system I'm not a huge fan of the system.

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Thanks a lot for all the answers! I'll have to think about Canon for a little while. Even though it's a good system I'm not a huge fan of the system.

 

Whatever you decide to go with, I suspect that you work from the intended results backwards. In other words, think about what kinds of pictures you want to make and then work backwards to figure out what cameras and lenses will be needed to make them. In doing so, I strongly recommend being brand-agnostic as that mindset encourages clarity and objectivity.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

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Whatever you decide to go with, I suspect that you work from the intended results backwards. In other words, think about what kinds of pictures you want to make and then work backwards to figure out what cameras and lenses will be needed to make them. In doing so, I strongly recommend being brand-agnostic as that mindset encourages clarity and objectivity.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

 

You're right Sean, but I've owned three Canon bodies and have ended up selling them all. I'm not brand favorizing and I'm generally very objective about gear and I admit that Canon produce some amazing gear, but maybe just not for me..

If I could decide I would only shoot art, stock, reportage, street etc, but that's maybe not realistic so I've been thinking of other genres I would like to work with and the two has been architecture and food (big interest in food!).

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As far as I understand, food photography is highly specialised and quite tricky, at least in the studio. What kind of food photography do you want to do?

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As far as I understand, food photography is highly specialised and quite tricky, at least in the studio. What kind of food photography do you want to do?

 

There's many ways of doing it. But the trend today is not to complicate things too much and shoot real food. Many shoot in available light or mix it with daylight lamps.

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I am editing a wedding right now that was all shot with the M8 and just two lenses, the 35/1.4 Asph. and the 28/1.9 Ultron (both with filters). The results look great and clients have been very happy with the output.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

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I am editing a wedding right now that was all shot with the M8 and just two lenses, the 35/1.4 Asph. and the 28/1.9 Ultron (both with filters). The results look great and clients have been very happy with the output.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

 

I can't imagine someone being unhappy with your wedding pictures!

Which lens did you use the most?

I've been looking at a M7 and 35mm lux ASPH combo at a pretty good price for a while, but I like the 35mm cron ASPH. Speed is always nice though

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A bit of update. Still haven't bought a backup yet, but I'm currently leaning towards the K10D because it's pretty similiar to M8 in many ways. Good viewfinder, good build and features for the money, good lenses, DNG format, same resolution (allthough M8 might be crisper), IS, dust reduction and the excellent Sigma 12-24 is available in Pentax mount.

 

As for the M8 I still love it. I love the simplicity and compactness of the camera. I've also started to shoot a little stock and I can say that there's no problem to upres these files to 50mb if you don't crop a lot. But I wouldn't use high ISO, unless if it's for B&W.

I thought about investing in some really good wide angle glass for the M8, but I don't like the wide angle issues with the M8. I think it's really sad that a camera that's ultimate strength should be WA work shows these issues

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What issues Martin? Any there might be impact on the image quality far less than the lesser performance of DSLR WA lenses as opposed to Leica M and ZI lenses. In your place I would try to borrow some lenses for a short while and try it out. You might overcome your doubts.

 

CV Heliar 15, IR filtered:

 

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Yes, Martin, that is true, but it is a rare phenomen with the 1.102 firmware and easily corrected in Cornerfix, should it happen. I find loss of resolution and CA, as shown by virtually all (D)SLR lenses far more disturbing and destructive. I only see it in about 5 % of my shots with the 15mm and even less with the Zeiss 21 (coded of course). From 28 upwards it is nonexistent, as on my 9.8 mm, but that is another construction. I suppose you are never in my neighbourhood, but else I would say: drop by and try.

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Jaap,

Thanks for the offer Jaap. I'll take the first flight to the Netherlands!

I might get the new Zeiss 18mm Distagon for architecture and maybe a CV 12mm for really wide work. A frankenfinder would handle both on the M8 and the 18mm on film. But I'll have to think about if I want to invest in ultra wides for the M8. Allthough the lenses are really good, a DSLR is better in many ways for architecture.

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What issues Martin? Any there might be impact on the image quality far less than the lesser performance of DSLR WA lenses as opposed to Leica M and ZI lenses. In your place I would try to borrow some lenses for a short while and try it out. You might overcome your doubts.

 

CV Heliar 15, IR filtered:

 

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Jaap, on this picture did you use a coded 15mm and did you set the lens detection "on". Was it further corrected with cornerfix?

 

Nice picture!

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