wilfredo Posted July 11, 2016 Share #21 Posted July 11, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'll be watching. Some of us have a preference for CCD sensors when doing B&W photography so this will be interesting if it's true. Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjh Posted July 17, 2016 Share #22 Posted July 17, 2016 CCD is dead. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted August 1, 2016 Share #23 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) CCD News. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/261704-50mp-ccd/ Edited August 1, 2016 by wilfredo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMorita Posted August 19, 2016 Share #24 Posted August 19, 2016 I didn't read it carefully, but this might help. http://www.teledynedalsa.com/imaging/knowledge-center/appnotes/ccd-vs-cmos/ My takeaway is that CCDs are better with infrared, which is particularly useful for machine inspection and sorting in manufacturing and warehouses, and that CCDs can be modified for particularly high sensitivity applications when speed of capture is not an issue. In other words, this does not apply in any common photographic application. I'm also pretty well convinced that the CCD vs. CMOS debate has more to do with the prioritizing of luminance sensitivity over color sensitivity over the last decade or so. Reducing the optical density of the color filter array is the culprit, methinks, not the sensor technology itself. Personally, I believe I perceive (note my lack of confidence in this judgment) higher noise levels at base ISO in modern cameras than in cameras from two or three generations ago, before the ISO wars. If that's the case, I'd be happiest shooting with a combination of a dark-filter camera (base ISO in the 50 range) and a minimal-filter camera (e.g., Monochrom). Cheers, Jon My impression was that CMOS won over CCDs in camera for two reasons: 1. CCDs are kinda slow to read out the pixels, whereas CMOS can be very fast. So CMOS is better for mirrorless cameras because it reduces Live View lag. http://www.techhive.com/article/246931/cmos_is_winning_the_camera_sensor_battle_and_heres_why.html 2, CMOS image sensors use much less power than CCD image sensors. This is less of an issue with a DSLR because it doesn't use Live View, but is a huge issue for mirrorless. http://electronicdesign.com/automotive/cmos-challenges-ccd-automotive-image-sensing-applications Also, it used to be that CMOS sensors had pretty bad image quality, but they caught up to CCDs fairly quickly. Toshi 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XVarior Posted August 24, 2016 Share #25 Posted August 24, 2016 Why do they use them, Pico? I understand that in practical terms the CMOS based sensors provide live view, and many prefer the look of the CCD sensors (not sure I agree - in camera and post processing does a lot for final image quality), but I'm not sure I understand why some applications prefer CCD. Weren't many top of the line video cameras also CCD? But isn't PhaseOne still using CCD sensors in their Toprange digital backs? I think they do along with CMOS of course so photographers can chose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share #26 Posted August 25, 2016 Well, although the pictures I received were not perfect, it seems the information was not that much far-fetched! http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/258835-leica-t2-first-image-%E2%80%A6-perhaps/ It is always helpful to know the right people! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramosa Posted August 26, 2016 Share #27 Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) New photos of said CCD camera: [url=https://prosophos.com/2016/08/24/updated-images-of-new-ccd-m-mount-camera/]https://prosophos.com/2016/08/24/updated-images-of-new-ccd-m-mount-camera/[/ Edited August 26, 2016 by ramosa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share #28 Posted August 26, 2016 Well, although the pictures I received were not perfect, it seems the information was not that much far-fetched! http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/258835-leica-t2-first-image-%E2%80%A6-perhaps/ It is always helpful to know the right people! A more recent photo (?) of the new T2 with some body corrections!... http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252795-the-t2/page-10 As for the M mount, these photos are coming, but nothing is really sure yet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyros Moutsouris Posted September 15, 2016 Share #29 Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) A joke has been officially announced with Leica Sofort, so higher expectations for Leica TL Edited September 15, 2016 by cyrusthevirus Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indergaard Posted September 18, 2016 Share #30 Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) My impression was that CMOS won over CCDs in camera for two reasons: 1. CCDs are kinda slow to read out the pixels, whereas CMOS can be very fast. So CMOS is better for mirrorless cameras because it reduces Live View lag. http://www.techhive.com/article/246931/cmos_is_winning_the_camera_sensor_battle_and_heres_why.html 2, CMOS image sensors use much less power than CCD image sensors. This is less of an issue with a DSLR because it doesn't use Live View, but is a huge issue for mirrorless. http://electronicdesign.com/automotive/cmos-challenges-ccd-automotive-image-sensing-applications Also, it used to be that CMOS sensors had pretty bad image quality, but they caught up to CCDs fairly quickly. Toshi You forgot the number #1 argument for why CMOS become standardized over CCD though: Manufacturing costs. CCD's costs a lot more to manufacture than CMOS, and require more technical finesse to produce. The yield rates are far less with CCD. Edited September 18, 2016 by indergaard 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndf9 Posted September 21, 2016 Share #31 Posted September 21, 2016 Hi, i'm not able to go to Photokina. So here is my question, what about a new M like camera with CCD from Leica or other manufacture with M mount? Any thing real, or at the end all speculations? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 21, 2016 Share #32 Posted September 21, 2016 As soon as the sun rises in the West... Well, maybe we'll see another crowdfunding effort - AKA get rich quick scheme. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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