howard_cummer Posted June 8, 2007 Share #41 Â Posted June 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) HI Guy, The frame lines change as you change focal lengths. That was, I understand, one of the reasons for the redesign from verison one to verison two - VI had trouble with frame lines so the mechanism was redesigned in V2. Glass is the same. It is a great lens for travel and my most used. I would like to see a 35 50 75 version next. Can't believe they are stopping production. Cheers Howard (in Hong Kong) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Hi howard_cummer, Take a look here MATE discontinued. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
marknorton Posted June 8, 2007 Share #42 Â Posted June 8, 2007 Does highlight Leica's dependence on components sourced from single suppliers - glass, sensors, semiconductors, firmware. If the supply dries up, the product's in trouble. Â I'm glad I have a TE, it's a versatile and capable lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 8, 2007 Share #43 Â Posted June 8, 2007 When I bought my M8 (chrome) the dealer had in the shop a used Tri Elmar chrome, perfect... I was tempted but the paycheck for the M8 was still in fron of me... passed away... for what I have read here, maybe I'll go and see if it is still there: I do not worry about f4 and the Tri Elmar is a lens I thought a lot of in terms of "one day or another....": if it's no more built, suspect the used prices shall be on the rise... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted June 8, 2007 Share #44 Â Posted June 8, 2007 Glad I found a second hand one a few weeks ago. It's a great lens for any shooting where you do not need something faster than 4.0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted June 8, 2007 Share #45 Â Posted June 8, 2007 I hope the rumors are false as I've had a new one on order for a couple of months - I hope I will still eventually see it turn up. Â Btw, if anyone needs a WATE/finder combo immediately I have one on that I ordered on will-call at my local photo dealer that I'm going to pass on. I'm happy with the CV 15 which I now have coded. The MATE is more useful for my shooting style. Â PM me if you're interested in the WATE and I can give you the dealer info after I've let them know now that I'm back in town and made my decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted June 8, 2007 Share #46  Posted June 8, 2007 Does highlight Leica's dependence on components sourced from single suppliers - glass, sensors, semiconductors, firmware. If the supply dries up, the product's in trouble. I'm glad I have a TE, it's a versatile and capable lens.   Gone were the days when Leica designed and made all the lens glass... There are said that some asph elements are now from the east. Can't verify... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted June 8, 2007 Share #47 Â Posted June 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) There are said that some asph elements are now from the east. Can't verify... Â You mean Dresden???? ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted June 8, 2007 Share #48 Â Posted June 8, 2007 You mean Dresden???? ;-) Â Some old Leica dealer here got the saying that it is SIGMA japan. Can't verify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted June 8, 2007 Share #49 Â Posted June 8, 2007 Does anyone know what the differences are between the 1st and 2nd version, and if there is a price difference between the two on the second-hand market? Â 2nd version of the original Tri-Elmar wears engraved, depth of field markings for all three focal lengths. It also has better ergonomics, IMHO. Yes, and it uses a smaller filter in size E49; "slim" version always preferred. I forget if their was a price uplift or no. Â -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted June 8, 2007 Share #50 Â Posted June 8, 2007 If anyone knows where I can find one of the later revision (prefer 6 bit) Tri-Elmars in stock, please send me a site mail. I was going to pick one up later in the summer, but it seems I need to get moving now.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bernd Banken Posted June 8, 2007 Share #51 Â Posted June 8, 2007 If anyone knows where I can find one of the later revision (prefer 6 bit) Tri-Elmars in stock, please send me a site mail. I was going to pick one up later in the summer, but it seems I need to get moving now.... Â Here we go: Â http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120127235666&rd=1&rd=1 Â Bernd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted June 8, 2007 Share #52 Â Posted June 8, 2007 Never mind - I found a new one from a UK dealer at a great price too ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted June 8, 2007 Share #53 Â Posted June 8, 2007 What price, if you don't mind me asking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted June 8, 2007 Share #54  Posted June 8, 2007 Not good news. This is the next lens on my list to acquire. I was planning on a new TE so that I have a coded lens with 28/35/50 to walk about with while I sent my 28+35+50 lenses in for coding. So, now do I rush out and buy a TE from somewhere if they are in stock, or do I wait? Bugger!  Even though I own 28-35-50 very nice primes the TE is my most used lens. I love it and IMO it fits perfectly to the small size , fast , unobstrusive M package. cheers, tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveEP Posted June 8, 2007 Share #55  Posted June 8, 2007 Even though I own 28-35-50 very nice primes the TE is my most used lens. I love it and IMO it fits perfectly to the small size , fast , unobstrusive M package.cheers, tom  Thanks Tom. that was my expectiation, at least from a walkabut point of view. For most daytime walkabout situations, F4 is fine for me. I am a little concerned about the distortion on the 28, but I will wait to see what it's really like. Hopefully I will pick mine up tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted June 8, 2007 Share #56 Â Posted June 8, 2007 Hi David!Yes agree completely. Leica has just so much in resources, people and material, and they need to focus on the more important. Â All MATE owners, think this way- they will be rare, and more valuable! Â :-) Â Glad I got one some moths ago. While I own some fast glass for the M I try to avoid shooting wide open because its a lottery to get the focus right as long as the subject is not still. For me shooting wide open is not the (only) typical M-shooting. I rather think shooting with a little more DOF is the way to go with Leica M (again, as long as there is enough light). Your are faster, you include more of the surrounding. My 35/1.4, 50/1.0 and 75/1.4 stay a lot at home for this reason and might be sold. Â As a fast lens 28/2.0 works best for me and eventually the 50/1.4asph (which does not suffer of focus-shift as the Noctilux). Â What I wanted to say is that I find the flexibilty of the TE more important than more fast lenses. cheers, tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted June 8, 2007 Share #57 Â Posted June 8, 2007 Thanks Tom. that was my expectiation, at least from a walkabut point of view. For most daytime walkabout situations, F4 is fine for me. I am a little concerned about the distortion on the 28, but I will wait to see what it's really like. Hopefully I will pick mine up tomorrow. Â Dave: distorsion might be there but for me its not a reason to use the 28/2.0 when I have enough light for the TE. However I dont shoot much architecture, which might be another story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsh Posted June 8, 2007 Share #58 Â Posted June 8, 2007 I picked up a new TriElmar for $1,450.00 AND A NEW 135 APO TELYY FOR $1350.00 about two Months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted June 9, 2007 Share #59 Â Posted June 9, 2007 I picked up a new TriElmar for $1,450.00 AND A NEW 135 APO TELYY FOR $1350.00 about two Months ago. Â Unbelievable... great price !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reven Posted June 9, 2007 Share #60 Â Posted June 9, 2007 If anybody has one left or knows where to get one plz let me know. ( black one and 2nd Gen. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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