Kodak 5222 Double-X in my Leica M7

[fotohuis]

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Kodak 5222 Double-X in my M7.

 

 

 

 

 

http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/Kodak/motion/Products/Camera_Films/BW_Negative/Technical_Data/5222_ti0299.pdf

 

Kodak 5222:

 

Daylight: iso 250

Tungsten light: iso 200

Finer grain compared with Tri-X 400

Higher resolution then Tri-X 400

 

Available in 122m/400ft or S/E.

 

The coming week I will play around a bit with this (cine) film.

[Paul Verrips]

Robert, you have my attention!

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[pico]

Are you going to process in D96?

[fotohuis]

There are many good developer combinations for Double-X. D-96 is not very different comparing to D-76.

[semi-ambivalent]

There are many good developer combinations for Double-X. D-96 is not very different comparing to D-76.

But D-96 can, with replenishment, be used for a long time and it still gives lovely results with Double-X. If you care, there's a monstrously long Dbl-X thread over on rangefinderforum where you can find the recipes for both D-96 and D-96R. They are my first effort mixing from scratch and it's a blast, in part because I got to buy yet another thing for my darkroom. A scale. I also have some negs that were souped in HC-110 and they too have my current "look".

 

s-a

[pico]

D-96 is an industrial developer which means it is consistent with replenishment in large lot development. We do not need it in our small batches. Regardless, I am curious. In a similar regard I do not see how using cine B&W film could lead to anything significant UNLESS it behaves like Plus-X !

 

Let us know!

[fotohuis]

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Double-X 5222 is the cine version of the discontinued Plus-X from Kodak Eastman. I know the thread on the RFF under film.

And about developers:

http://shop.fotohuisrovo.nl/index.php?cPath=31_37&language=en

 

Beutler, Microdol-X, TDLC-103 and Windisch W665 I am making myself from scratch.

 

Diafine, Microphen I have mixed on the shelf now and R09/Rodinal and HC-110 are my regular developers.

[fotohuis]

OK, ready to go: 30m XX loaded in my AP loader. Also with Kodak Eastman you can use the standard 25mm core in the reel. The AP daylight loader is a very handy film loader with a short connection to the 35mm cassette. Time to re-install my test bear with some test charts.

Because I am a darkroom mouse the results will be wet prints in split grade and then in the V500 Epson scanner. I am working with a Dunco II 67 120 pro enlarger with Rodenstock Rodagon optics. I have also a TRDZ densitometer for control.

[fotohuis]

The first strips are hanging to dry. XX E.I. 200-250 HC-110 1+31, 6:00 minutes, XX E.I. 320-400 HC-110 1+31, 6:30 minutes and XX E.I. 800 Microphen 1+0 10:00 minutes. I have three Jobo 1510 tanks for this tests and on one 135-36 film I put some small stickers on the film surface when I am changing speeds on the M7 light meter. So when putting in a 1501 Jobo reel I feel where I have to cut. I have used my Summicron F/2,0-50mm for it.

Edited September 22, 2015 by fotohuis

[sblitz]

One can buy rolls from the Film Photography Project. My question is XX different enough in grain and tonal quality from Ilford FP4+? Trying to understand what is the outstanding unique quality of XX? 

[NJH]

Good question, an attraction for me with FP4+ is the potential to expose it at EI 200 under certain situations and development regimes potentially making it a general purpose outdoor film for me.

[fotohuis]

You can not use FP4+ on E.I. 800, at least not with severe quality loss. This XX film is flexible from iso 200-800 and with an ultra fine grain type developer you can use it without limitation on iso 100 too. It is like Tri-X 400  a very flexible film. Prints will follow tomorrow.

[sblitz]

Thanks both. I understand now the ISO flexibility but if I shoot both at their native ISO. 125 and 250 is there a difference in grain and tonal range?

[fotohuis]

 

 

^{XX in HC-110 (1+31) for 6:00 minutes (20C), E.I. 200. M7+Summicron 50mm on F/4.}

 

 

 

 

^{XX in HC-110 (1+31) for 6:30 minutes (20C), E.I. 400. M7+Summicron 50mm on F/4.}

 

 

 

^{XX in Microphen 1+0 for 10:00 minutes (20C), E.I. 800. M7+Summicron 50mm on F/4.}

 

 

^{Conclusion: This is a very flexible film suitable from iso 100-800 (1600), a first class Kodak product. It dries flat too and it is very easy to (Split Grade) print. Some measurements on the Grey card, zone V:}

^{iso 200 0,72 logD, right on the spott!}

^{iso 400 0,64 logD.}

^{iso 800 0,78 logD.}

^{The characteristics are like Plus-X, Tri-X, double speed comparing with Plus-X (maybe hence the name Double-X) and not much less speed then the famous Kodak Tri-X 400. In price, when you can get S/E it is a very interesting film. Also available in 135-36 (pre-loaded) at some addresses in Europe and the USA.}

Edited September 23, 2015 by fotohuis

[Paul Verrips]

Thank you for showing these results! Do you have an example from 100 ASA ?

[fotohuis]

Not yet but I will do also an ultra fine grain developer for this 5222 Kodak film on E.I. 100.

Edited September 23, 2015 by fotohuis

[fotohuis]

OK, the test strips are hanging to dry. M7 + Elmarit 21mm with this Kodak 5222 Double-X film E.I. 100 developed in Windisch W665 ultra fine grain type developer, a kind of 777 panthermic. Only not para- Phenylene Diamine is used but ortho- Phenylene Diamine to get the minimum grain. After the fixer you make a wash and then an extra step in 2%-3% HAc (Acetic Acid) or 2%-3% HCl (Hydrochloric Acid) to remove the solarisation layer and get that super fine grain. Then you can wash the film according the ilford wash method. Because I have a Heiland TAS film processor, this extra step is a neglectible extra work.

[fotohuis]

 

 

The old flyer. The new is according GHS symbols. I have used 11:00 minutes (20C) for this XX film exposed on E.I. 100.

[fotohuis]

 

 

_{XX E.I. 100 in W665 1+0 11 minutes (20C).}

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