wilfredo Posted July 27, 2015 Share #1 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I believe my Leica Monochrom (original version) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! has a metering issue. When shooting in bright open spaces, it tends to under expose by one or two stops. What do you think? The first shot of each set is what the proper exposure should be according to the meter. The next two shots are over exposed by 1 and 2 stops. Edited July 27, 2015 by wilfredo Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! has a metering issue. When shooting in bright open spaces, it tends to under expose by one or two stops. What do you think? The first shot of each set is what the proper exposure should be according to the meter. The next two shots are over exposed by 1 and 2 stops. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/248314-metering-problem/?do=findComment&comment=2861683'>More sharing options...
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wilfredo Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share #2 Posted July 27, 2015 Second set. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/248314-metering-problem/?do=findComment&comment=2861685'>More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted July 27, 2015 I'm thinking of sending it over to Leica before the warranty expires in September. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 27, 2015 Share #4 Posted July 27, 2015 It's New Jersey Wilfredo. You could hit it with a rock. Take it in person. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted July 27, 2015 Yes, actually I'm thinking of just taking a drive over to Allendale. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 27, 2015 Share #6 Posted July 27, 2015 Road trip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiftyonepointsix Posted July 27, 2015 Share #7 Posted July 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Are you using a Red or Orange filter with it? I notice that the meter and CCD "see differently", I add ~2/3rds stop with deep orange and +1 stop with Red. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 28, 2015 Share #8 Posted July 28, 2015 The examples are less than ideal as both seem to have a bright (sky) or light and reflective (roof) very near the centre of the metering area. If left to it's own devices the meter will underexpose because it is trying to make those brighter areas mid grey (as can be seen, the sky and the roof are sort of mid-grey) in the unadjusted shots. As you say Wilfredo that this happens in bright open spaces I would say it's a case for metering on something else because the meter in the MM is not a multi field meter as with the 'Advanced metering' of the M240, it is definitely centre weighted. So focus, meter (on the ground or something that is mid-grey), compose, and shoot. Steve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 28, 2015 Share #9 Posted July 28, 2015 I think Steve is right, the meter has mostly read the sky in photo 1 and the bright roof in photo 2. How does the meter cope with more even subjects? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 28, 2015 Share #10 Posted July 28, 2015 The only way to check an exposure meter is to use a grey card, rather large in the centre of the image with even light. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted July 28, 2015 Are you using a Red or Orange filter with it? I notice that the meter and CCD "see differently", I add ~2/3rds stop with deep orange and +1 stop with Red. I'm using an Orange Filter. I took some more shots today and it seemed to make no difference whether I used a filter or not, regarding exposure, and the metering seemed fine. I will try again when the light is as it was yesterday when I shared the test shots. I first noticed this when shooting in snow. I never had this issue with my Leica M8, but then again, I did noy use it with color filters. I need to avail myself of a grey card. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 28, 2015 Share #12 Posted July 28, 2015 I first noticed this when shooting in snow. I never had this issue with my Leica M8, but then again, I did noy use it with color filters. I need to avail myself of a grey card. This is a similar situation to shooting snow, the meter wants to try and make white snow into a mid grey so underexposes the snow. If you are shooting snow dial in a stop or more of + exposure, or take a reading off the palm of your hand. And for other scenes green grass has a similar reflectivity of a mid grey. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterjcb Posted July 29, 2015 Share #13 Posted July 29, 2015 Wilfredo, I know that this is kind of obvious and probably not the case but make sure your exposure compensation is set at "0"..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_61 Posted July 29, 2015 Share #14 Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Are you using a Red or Orange filter with it? I notice that the meter and CCD "see differently", I add ~2/3rds stop with deep orange and +1 stop with Red. Very true and well observed. Edited July 29, 2015 by dj_61 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted July 31, 2015 Share #15 Posted July 31, 2015 Needs repair. Just be sure you do not have exposure compensation enabled or bracketing set if that feature is on the camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) I'm often having to do exposure compensations to get a propper exposure. I decided it was time for a trip to the Leica hospital. I took the camera over to Leica in Allendale, N.J. this morning. My warranty runs out in October so that's covered. I also asked that they check the sensor while they have the camera. The focusing ring on my 50mm LUX ASPH has a little play, so I took that in as well (warranty expired on that one). Now the waiting game begins. BTW, I've never had this issue with my D2 which is CCD; never had it with my M8, and don't have it with my Canon S95, which is also CCD. For most of my shooting, I prefer CCD sensors. Edited August 17, 2015 by wilfredo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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