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Hi,

The datat sheets state that the battery for the Q is BP-DC 12.

A search for that model shows that the battery for the V-LUX4 is the same model.

But is it really the same battery?

On B&H site there are two listings with same model name and specs:

1: BP-DC 12 for Leica Q that costs $190

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1160034-REG/leica_19500_bp_dc_12_lithium_ion_battery.html

2: BP-DC 12 for V-LUX 4 that costs only $79.95

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/894736-REG/Leica_18729_BP_DC12_Lithium_Ion_Battery.html

 

and of course there are third party batteries like the Wasabi Power that you get 2 batteries plus charger for only $30

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wasabi-Power-Battery-2-Pack-and-Charger-for-Leica-BP-DC12-/251621940689?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a95d61dd1

 

Will the V-Lux battery or the Wasabi batteries will work with the Leica Q?

I've ordered the camera but will need extra battery and don't feel like paying $190...

 

Thanks for any input

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Well, if it has the same Product code, at least the Leica batteries should be the same

. But I guess very soon you can read a post of a forum member who tried the alternatives in his Q. I can only say that the battery in the Q is labelled 7.2v 1200 mAh.

 

Peter

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I bought an extra battery for mine, which they said in the store was the same as in some other Leica camera (can't remember which one, but unfortunately not the M9/MM batteries which I already have a couple of).

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Hi,

The datat sheets state that the battery for the Q is BP-DC 12.

A search for that model shows that the battery for the V-LUX4 is the same model.

But is it really the same battery?

On B&H site there are two listings with same model name and specs:

1: BP-DC 12 for Leica Q that costs $190

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1160034-REG/leica_19500_bp_dc_12_lithium_ion_battery.html

2: BP-DC 12 for V-LUX 4 that costs only $79.95

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/894736-REG/Leica_18729_BP_DC12_Lithium_Ion_Battery.html

 

and of course there are third party batteries like the Wasabi Power that you get 2 batteries plus charger for only $30

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wasabi-Power-Battery-2-Pack-and-Charger-for-Leica-BP-DC12-/251621940689?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a95d61dd1

 

Will the V-Lux battery or the Wasabi batteries will work with the Leica Q?

I've ordered the camera but will need extra battery and don't feel like paying $190...

 

Thanks for any input

In the video interview on Luminous Landscape about the Q Stefan Daniel confirms it is the same battery as used in other Leica cameras. 

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thank you all

I've ordered the wasabi batteries, not a big risk for $30...

We'll see how they'll work when the Q arrives

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I think the choice of the battery for the Q is far better than the one of the M240. I never had battery problems with the M9, but I can see that a somewhat larger battery like the Q has is a better choice. However with the M240 battery Leica went over the top - especially considering that the M of all digital cameras should have the lowest battery requirements not requiring any electricity until you take a picture. 

 

Peter

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I think it's the same battery as the V-Lux. I charged my Q battery in my wife's V-Lux charger - it worked fine and the batteries look identical.

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Hi,

The datat sheets state that the battery for the Q is BP-DC 12.

A search for that model shows that the battery for the V-LUX4 is the same model.

But is it really the same battery?

On B&H site there are two listings with same model name and specs:

1: BP-DC 12 for Leica Q that costs $190

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1160034-REG/leica_19500_bp_dc_12_lithium_ion_battery.html

2: BP-DC 12 for V-LUX 4 that costs only $79.95

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/894736-REG/Leica_18729_BP_DC12_Lithium_Ion_Battery.html

 

and of course there are third party batteries like the Wasabi Power that you get 2 batteries plus charger for only $30

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wasabi-Power-Battery-2-Pack-and-Charger-for-Leica-BP-DC12-/251621940689?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a95d61dd1

 

Will the V-Lux battery or the Wasabi batteries will work with the Leica Q?

I've ordered the camera but will need extra battery and don't feel like paying $190...

 

Thanks for any input

 

The battery for the Sigma DP Quattro series is also identical.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1087579-REG/sigma_d00045_bp_51_lithium_ion_battery_pack.html

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This is the Panasonic version for their DMC-FZ200 which is their version of the Vlux4. Same camera = same battery. B&H sells the Panasonic battery for 44.78.  The Panasonic works perfectly in my Q, in case you are looking toget a spare battery or 2

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Just out of curiosity:

 

Lets assume the camera ceases to function due to the malfunctioning third party battery.

How does that affect warranty liability and serviceability?

 

Thank you.

 

Sincerely,

Mike

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How does that affect warranty liability and serviceability?

 

 

3 aspects:

- contractual - as per Leica's terms and conditions

- operational - as in technically all these batteries share the same interface: plus, minus, 7.2V

- how to prove - as in how is anyone every going to know that someone used a bogus battery (unless it is really obvious)

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Lets assume the camera ceases to function due to the malfunctioning third party battery.

How does that affect warranty liability and serviceability?

In addition to bernie.lcf's post: V is V and A is A...

 

Some issues that Leica might baulk at 'covering':

* endurance or operational longevity per charge

* electrical parameter (V A) fluctuations or stability

* lifetime of total charges per battery

* leakage damaging the camera

* battery overheating damaging the camera

* lithium battery fire destroying camera and anything else

* size intolerance causing camera damage in/out or loose

* Leica charger malfunction w.r.t. to inserted 3rd party items

 

Notwithstanding the above and before my pre-order is even

vaguely looking like arriving I've ordered 2 spare batteries

and a spare 12Vdc capable charger to keep in the car.

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In addition to bernie.lcf's post: V is V and A is A...

 

Some issues that Leica might baulk at 'covering':

* endurance or operational longevity per charge

* electrical parameter (V A) fluctuations or stability

* lifetime of total charges per battery

* leakage damaging the camera

* battery overheating damaging the camera

* lithium battery fire destroying camera and anything else

* size intolerance causing camera damage in/out or loose

* Leica charger malfunction w.r.t. to inserted 3rd party items

 

Notwithstanding the above and before my pre-order is even

vaguely looking like arriving I've ordered 2 spare batteries

and a spare 12Vdc capable charger to keep in the car.

To be honest I would be more worried about the cheap charger catching fire than damage done by the batteries

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It is also the same battery as used in the Sigma DP Quattros which are shipped with 2 batteries. Soon used DP2 Quattros can be had for not much more than Leica Q labeled spare batteries 

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To be honest I would be more worried about the cheap charger catching fire than damage done by the batteries

Agreed. The charger looks v. cheap... I'm not intending to

attach it to 240Vac mains just to the car's nominal 12Vdc

for emergency use out in the field - perhaps after running

out of charged up batteries. Quite likely never to be used.

 

Soon used DP2 Quattros can be had for not much more than Leica Q labeled spare batteries 

 .

 

Puzzled me for a moment. How does even a Leica branded

spare battery's massively over-the-top price come close to an

Audi Quattro car... until a grey cell clicked - Sigma DP not Audi:-)

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Agreed. The charger looks v. cheap... I'm not intending to

attach it to 240Vac mains just to the car's nominal 12Vdc

for emergency use out in the field - perhaps after running

out of charged up batteries. Quite likely never to be used.

 

 

Puzzled me for a moment. How does even a Leica branded

spare battery's massively over-the-top price come close to an

Audi Quattro car... until a grey cell clicked - Sigma DP not Audi:-)

 

 

The Q and Sigma DP3 Quattro would actually make for an interesting travel combo.

Edited by Ecaton

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