jc_braconi Posted April 17, 2015 Share #1 Posted April 17, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, Let me introduce them to you...both are Summicron 2/90 Made in Canada, they are from the same year :1960, both were screw mount born but, the first was M mount and red dot added and it is on a M3 from 1955 the second remained genuine and it is on a IIIg from 1957. just wanted to share with youThanks for looking Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/243769-seoom-seeof/?do=findComment&comment=2799889'>More sharing options...
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Antonio Madureira Posted April 17, 2015 Share #2 Posted April 17, 2015 Courius, different aperture rings, in the same production year. Thanks for share. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted April 17, 2015 Courius, different aperture rings, in the same production year. Thanks for share. One has the preselection ring Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Madureira Posted April 17, 2015 Share #4 Posted April 17, 2015 One has the preselection ring Usefull for Visoflex, is´nt it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted April 18, 2015 Usefull for Visoflex, is´nt it? Absolutely Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/243769-seoom-seeof/?do=findComment&comment=2800190'>More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted April 18, 2015 Share #6 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) To complement JC display of two slightly different Summicrons 90 of the same year... here are two slightly different Summicrons 90 of very different years... : the black one (2814779 - number is on side) is from the "spurious" preliminary batch dated 1977 (before official intro) with its distinctive design "error-naivety" (the shade covers the f stop ring, and pretending to declare a DOF at f2 is practically unuseful) , the other is from the last year of production (1995) - maybe from the last batch which included silver items. Both from Canada, though in 1995 the Elcan factory didn't belong anymore to Leica. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 18, 2015 by luigi bertolotti 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/243769-seoom-seeof/?do=findComment&comment=2800241'>More sharing options...
Orient XI Posted April 20, 2015 Share #7 Posted April 20, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) There is an additional variation of the type IB 90mm Summicron in the 1818xxx range. The minimum aperture of the lens is f/16 but the depth of field indicator extends to f/22. When using the lens head on the Visoflex II or III there is a choice of two short barrels or focussing mounts. Probably the most common is the focussing mount ZOOEP/16463, scaled from 1m to imfinity. There is also the focussing mount 16462 which additionally takes the lens head of the 135mm f/2.8 Elmarit. A half-hearted attempt to purchase the latter lens (first design) was aborted when its lens head failed to fit my ZOOEP or its extension tube OUEPO/16474 when used in conjunction with ZOOEP. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/243769-seoom-seeof/?do=findComment&comment=2801854'>More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 14, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Hello Orient XL, The lens in your Post #7 above is actually a Second Version 90mm Summicron. Some Second Version 90mm Summicrons only stopped down to F16. Others to F22. The lenses shown in Luigi's Post #6 above are actually the Third Version. It is possible that what you showed in the photographs was a lens head matched to a later acquired focussing mount. Did you ever notice if the serial number of the lens head matched the serial number of the focussing mount? Since the focussing mount & the lens head did fit together correctly it is probably possible to find a usable focussing Short Mount. If you look elsewhere in this section you will see a similar problem & efforts for its solution with a Third Version F4.8, 280mm Visoflex Lens. Bellows II,16598J ............ is its title. Hello Jean Claude, Would you also by any chance have a later version black 11126/11132? If so: Is it black paint or anodized? Knurled dimples or just knurled? Or is a later version black 11126/11132 like a screwmount 35mm Summilux: Something which should exist but nobody seems to have 1. Best Regards Both, Michael Edited May 14, 2015 by Michael Geschlecht Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 14, 2015 Share #9 Posted May 14, 2015 .... Hello Jean Claude, Would you also by any chance have a later version black 11126/11132? If so: Is it black paint or anodized? Knurled dimples or just knurled? Or is a later version black 11126/11132 like a screwmount 35mm Summilux: Something which should exist but nobody seems to have 1. Best Regards , Michael you mean black in screw mount ? Lager says to have seen 3 of them... (1680297 1680310, 1680353, this one depicted in his book) : painted, it looks... and Lager says they were "on request"... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 14, 2015 Share #10 Posted May 14, 2015 Hello Luigi, Sorry for the confusion. What I was asking about was whether Jean Claude might have a picture of a later version Black Short Mount Pre-Set 90mm Summicron lens (11126) or a later version Black Pre-Set lens head alone (11132) for bellows mounting. The question about the 35mm Screw Mount Summilux was used as a comparative example. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted May 15, 2015 Hello Michael, I do not have other Pre-Set 90mm Summicron lens 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orient XI Posted May 15, 2015 Share #12 Posted May 15, 2015 Michael, My 90mm Summicron is definitely the first version with 6 lens elements. I designated it as version IB to distinguish it from the very earliest type (IA) with the detachable hood. Further, the serial number quoted 1818xxx is from 1960 a full 20 years before the second version appeared. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 18, 2015 Share #13 Posted May 18, 2015 Hello Orient XL, I was thinking of the version with the NON detachable lens head as Version 1 followed by the same 6 element optical system with a detachable lens head as Version 2. This would make the shorter & lighter next optical configuration Version 3. Best Regards, Michael. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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