Guest guy_mancuso Posted May 14, 2007 Share #41 Posted May 14, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) One more shot at 16mm setting Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/23859-compare-21-asph-to-wate/?do=findComment&comment=254947'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Hi Guest guy_mancuso, Take a look here Compare 21 ASPH to WATE?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
sean_reid Posted May 14, 2007 Share #42 Posted May 14, 2007 Just published the 75s, ultra-wides article now gets primary attention. Cheers, Sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted May 14, 2007 Share #43 Posted May 14, 2007 Some 21/2.8 asph (old firmware without cyan correction) IMO the lens holds very good tones even in contrasty light Still you guys have nearly convnced me to (also?!) get the wate. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 14, 2007 Share #44 Posted May 14, 2007 Superb Images !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 14, 2007 Share #45 Posted May 14, 2007 Hi There Here's one from the Peloponnese (Kosmas) with the dreaded WATE Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted May 14, 2007 Share #46 Posted May 14, 2007 Man that WATE is a dog :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 14, 2007 Share #47 Posted May 14, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Man that WATE is a dog I'm worried Guy - do you think I should send mine back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted May 14, 2007 Share #48 Posted May 14, 2007 Hang on to it , it gets better with age. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted May 14, 2007 Share #49 Posted May 14, 2007 When i use it sometimes i feel like I am getting poked by sharp needles and can't figure out why. LOL A oldie here Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/23859-compare-21-asph-to-wate/?do=findComment&comment=255454'>More sharing options...
billh Posted May 15, 2007 Share #50 Posted May 15, 2007 Hi Clyde, ...There's a ton of work that has to go into each review and just preparing the example tables takes a lot of time... Cheers, Sean That is my first thought every time I read one of them. I think the 30% off order has to be postmarked by June 30 - I will send mine in via Federal Express because they want the original documents and I have no confidence in the usps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartmonstr Posted May 15, 2007 Share #51 Posted May 15, 2007 This may not help you in your Leica-to-Leica question, but I did some comparison tests with four of the equivalent Canon (mostly L) lenses at 24mm on a 1DsMkII and the WATE at 18mm (which is a 24mm equivalent) on an M8. (I also tested the 24mm TS-E f/3.5 but I can only upload five images here at a time, and it was the worst lens of the bunch wide open, anyway.) I leveled the camera and made it as parallel to the wall as possible, shooting from about 20 ft. away. I figured the solid color of the wall would give a good indication of the lens vignetting, while the bricks would show any barrel or pincushion distortion. All lenses were set at their maximum aperture. No color or sharpness adjustments were made. The 67mm B&W UV/IR was used on the WATE, and even though I don't see much cyan drift, I do have a 49mm Leica UV/IR on its was to John Millich for surgery. As you can see from the examples below, the WATE exhibits the lowest vignetting and distortion of the group. I'm not showing it here, but 100% crop samples of the corner and the center show the sharpness of the WATE to best the Canons in both areas, as well. Of course, for two to three times the money, the Leica had better be noticably better, and it is. One could make the case that this is an apples-to-oranges comparison. But it does show how good even a Leica "zoom" is against its DSLR competition. I had the choice of going with the 21mm or the WATE, and the flexibility of the extra few mm and the relative compactness of the lens won out over the extra stop of the 21mm. I would make the same decision again. John Hartman Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/23859-compare-21-asph-to-wate/?do=findComment&comment=255495'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted May 15, 2007 Share #52 Posted May 15, 2007 John i came from canon and there best wides , there not close to leica and that was with the R lenses . Absolutely no surprise here and i would expect this any day of the week. Sorry canon folks but i tested every wide they had and they just are not top notch glass until you hit the 35mm 1.4 and up. All this Canon stuff led me right into the DMR , one day i looked in my bag and had 9 leica and 1 canon lens and had 3 canon bodies, than bought the DMR on a hunch. Never looked back. I do give Canon a lot of credit though just not in there wide angles. Interesting the M system wide angles led me to switch from the DMR to the M8. What's next is what want to know. LOL John nice to see the distortion pretty well controlled on the WATE , have really not tested that part of the lens like you did here . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted May 15, 2007 Share #53 Posted May 15, 2007 Superb Images !! thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phovsho Posted May 15, 2007 Share #54 Posted May 15, 2007 I'm no expert, but wouldn't it be more fair to have tested all 4 lens at f 4.0? Just a question. I'm buying the Wate anyways. M Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted May 15, 2007 Share #55 Posted May 15, 2007 Also keep in mind the vignetting would be far more pronounced with the full frame 1DsII than with the 1.33x crop of the M8. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lensblur Posted May 15, 2007 Share #56 Posted May 15, 2007 Also keep in mind the vignetting would be far more pronounced with the full frame 1DsII than with the 1.33x crop of the M8. and that Canon 24L is f/1.4 at f/1.4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibob Posted May 15, 2007 Share #57 Posted May 15, 2007 it's a sharp lens. rf Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/23859-compare-21-asph-to-wate/?do=findComment&comment=255819'>More sharing options...
lensblur Posted May 15, 2007 Share #58 Posted May 15, 2007 Late night at work with a WATE Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share #59 Posted May 15, 2007 There's some great photos from both lenses here. This has been a great help in making the decision, thanks very much everyone! --clyde Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted May 15, 2007 Share #60 Posted May 15, 2007 Horrid. First it was going to be the 90 macro with the 30% coupon, or maybe the 50 1.4.... and now the WATE is in the running. I've enjoyed the CV 15, but its a bit softer than the Leica lenses, and so maybe the WATE makes some sense (sense?). Thanks for the help, guys and Guy. LOL. Geoff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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