Wide angle landscape glass

[srv333]

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The black cloth of former times comes to mind.

 

 

If I pull out the cloth, Im pulling out the 4x5 instead!

[CheshireCat]

Am I alone on the idea that the Leica system is the best for daily use but for landscape, an SLR might be a better route? Or does anyone else have a better idea on how to run landscape images through this system? Lens options?

 

You are not alone.

I have a SEM 21 but it usually stays at home because the EVF is crap and an external OVF is unacceptable in the 21st century.

 

For landscapes I use the Summilux 35. If I need wide, I take two shots and composite them in post. This results more or less in an image horizontally equivalent to 21mm, but higher resolution (40 MPixels).

 

When I need ultra-wide, I have to use the EVF with the CV 12mm. But it's worth the hassle.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

I dont know why you guys have so many issues with the 21mm external OVF.............its great as long as I can get it to stop falling off the hot shoe

The EVF is crap with a capital K

[srv333]

You are not alone.

I have a SEM 21 but it usually stays at home because the EVF is crap and an external OVF is unacceptable in the 21st century.

 

For landscapes I use the Summilux 35. If I need wide, I take two shots and composite them in post. This results more or less in an image horizontally equivalent to 21mm, but higher resolution (40 MPixels).

 

When I need ultra-wide, I have to use the EVF with the CV 12mm. But it's worth the hassle.

 

Thats a really good idea. I own that 35mm as well and maybe I'll just start doing that instead. I think i'll just sell the 24mm lux and pick up one of those 21mm SEM and pocket the different. For the once a year I want to shoot "wide" I can put that 21mm SEM on the camera and suffer with the EVF.

Thanks for your input!!!

[CheshireCat]

I dont know why you guys have so many issues with the 21mm external OVF.

 

I never get the framing I want. It gets in the middle when I use other lenses. And then again, I refuse to use an OVF in 2014.

A high-resolution EVF is all I need.

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I never get the framing I want. It gets in the middle when I use other lenses. And then again, I refuse to use an OVF in 2014.

A high-resolution EVF is all I need.

Don't despair; 2015 is near.

 

You won't get far if you shy back from using tools on the grounds that they have been known for a long time and that other tools have been invented since.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

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Don't despair; 2015 is near.

 

You won't get far if you shy back from using tools on the grounds that they have been known for a long time and that other tools have been invented since.

It took me a while at first to get that into my stubborn head, but you are 100% correct and I love my external OVF:)

[250swb]

I'm never sure what people are looking at when a high quality EVF is needed with a wide angle lens?

 

True enough a high quality EVF would be nice, but it's not like trying to use the current EVF with say a 135mm lens where detail can make a difference, although that is still better than the OVF. With a wide angle lens everything is in front of you, in real life, how much more real and detailed does it need to be? If I can make out a recognisable rock on one side of the picture, that interesting tree on the other, and see the position of the horizon, that is the composition sorted with the EVF, the detail is in the picture whether I saw it through the camera or not. If I can raise the camera to my eye and get those elements arranged quickly the EVF doesn't need to be glued to my eye until I press the button.

 

It makes me wonder how people would cope with a large format camera where the image is upside down and back to front, often murky around the edges, and then you load the film, by which time the light may have changed. The key, if it needs saying, is to compose the image and then look at the light in real life, not through the ground glass screen. A simple lesson to transpose when an EVF doesn't give the IMAX experience.

 

Steve

[CheshireCat]

You won't get far if you shy back from using tools on the grounds that they have been known for a long time and that other tools have been invented since.

 

That is not really the case. I just refuse to use tools that are suboptimal for the task.

Rather than using an external OVF, I'd use the crappy EVF anytime.

 

What irritates me most is Leica claiming to strive for excellence, and then delivering obsolete abominations like "their" EVF. Now I am told I need to get a time machine, jump back to the XVII century and enjoy an OVF.

Talk about excellence...

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That is not really the case.

 

That is what you said.

 

This really is 2014. The task has been named. The obtainable tools are known. Some of the not obtainable tools have been named, too. Stop moaning and start working.

[tobey bilek]

The Leica was conceived as a small transportable camera. It has grown over time, but so have SLR and the lenses even more.

 

The SLR is far more universal for viewing and is essentially perfect for every focal length and focusing distance (field size shrinks as you focus closer) provided you purchase a model with 100% viewfinder, D3, D800.

 

So you pay your money and take your choice. All photography is a compromise.