Using Lightroom and Capture One

[mirekti]

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I've been using Lightroom for some time, but recently discovered Capture One. In terms of image catalog I still prefer Lightroom, but the I'd like to post process my files in C1.

 

Would it be a problem for any of the applications to use the same files? I wondered if I make any changes to the files in LR, will that affect C1 or vice versa? I mean, will changes made in LR change dng file, so when opened in C1 it will already contain these changes or...

 

My plan is to keep importing the files via Lightroom, but once copied to the hard disk, I would like to point to those folders in C1 catalogue as well.

[jaapv]

No problem at all. You can specify Capture One in the External Editing preferences.(16 bit Prophoto)

[mirekti]

No problem at all. You can specify Capture One in the External Editing preferences.(16 bit Prophoto)

 

I didn't mean it this way, as I don't prefer the tiff file size.

 

The idea was:

 

1. At location1 on a hard disk all dng files imported via Lightroom.

2. PP those files in LR.

3. At the same time create a new catalog in Capture One, and import all files from location 1, and keep those files at the location1.

4. Sometimes use LR for PP, sometimes C1.

 

Do LR or C1 change dng files so they would get messy, and lead to some confusion between the two applications?

Or, the dng files will always remain as they are, and the changes (eg. saturation, contrast, exposure) are stored within the each catalogue, hence, no impact?

 

I hope this makes sense.

[Jeff S]

This old LuLa article addresses simultaneous workflow (one possible method), and briefly mentions his reason for using TIFF rather than DNG.

 

Jeff

[jaapv]

I didn't mean it this way, as I don't prefer the tiff file size.

 

The idea was:

 

1. At location1 on a hard disk all dng files imported via Lightroom.

2. PP those files in LR.

3. At the same time create a new catalog in Capture One, and import all files from location 1, and keep those files at the location1.

4. Sometimes use LR for PP, sometimes C1.

 

Do LR or C1 change dng files so they would get messy, and lead to some confusion between the two applications?

Or, the dng files will always remain as they are, and the changes (eg. saturation, contrast, exposure) are stored within the each catalogue, hence, no impact?

 

I hope this makes sense.

The originals won't be changed, the altdrations are stored on a sidecar file.

And yes, you can export the LR catalogue.

[mirekti]

This old LuLa article addresses simultaneous workflow (one possible method), and briefly mentions his reason for using TIFF rather than DNG.

 

Jeff

 

 

This makes sense, and I might accept his aporoach. The only bad thing is the huge tiff files, and disk space. With time that shouldn't be a problem I guess.

[mirekti]

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No problem at all. You can specify Capture One in the External Editing preferences.(16 bit Prophoto)

 

 

Does this mean LR would pass the DNG file to C1, C1 would do the raw conversion, and upon closing the file it would be reimported to LR? If so, this would be the easiest way to combine LR and C1 as per my preference.

[mirekti]

No problem at all. You can specify Capture One in the External Editing preferences.(16 bit Prophoto)

 

I finally had some time to try this out and unfortunately it didn't work.

I get the error "The Session... ...failed verification". Than I click on check and repair, and get an error "Database check FAILED".

However, I'm not even sure this is what I want, because LR uses it's own raw converter to create a tiff file, correct?

 

Ideally, I should use LR as a catalogue, export the dng to C1, create a tiff there, and reimport it back to LR for final PP.

 

Thanks for the help, though.

[jaapv]

Fwiiw, I export my files to my own filing system, which is automatically backed up to another disk, and open it up in C1, and export to Photoshop. That leaves me a choice, as I can use Bridge ( whic is close to LR nowadays) to open up the files in ACR if I decide to use that route.

I use Imageingester Pro for importing the files to my computer.

[Jeff S]

Here is another workflow option combining the two (just ignore the Fuji part).

 

Jeff

[mirekti]

Thanks for all the comments. I am having some issues with C1 used as an external editor. I tried with two methods, one is using built in External editor option in LR, the other by using OpenDirectly plugin. In both cases I would get DB error in C1, and wasn't able to open the file directly from LR in C1.

 

Ideally it would work like this:

 

All files imported to LR.

Select the image(s) I want to work on, and open it in C1.

In case of built in external editor option in LR , LR would make a tiff file, and this is not what I really want. The advantage is that it creates a stacked photo and reimports it automatically, but again it loses it's purpose as I wanted C1 raw conversion.

I hoped OpenDirecly would pass a dng file to C1, and there I could save it as a TIFF, than reimport it to LR.

[mirekti]

...I figured it out with finally. I have to have Capture One open, and I have to be in "Session" mode. Than I can send the file to Capture one via OpenDirectly in LR. However, it automatically sends all files from the directory, not only the selected one, but I can live with it.

 

Once I'm done, I simply export the tiff files to the default output folder, put them back to their place in LR folder, synchronize, and that's it.