Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 5, 2014 Share #1 Â Posted July 5, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Due to the different sensor on the MM compared to the M240 what would you guys recommend for a long lens for the MM either 75 or probably 90 mm Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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swamiji Posted July 5, 2014 Share #2 Â Posted July 5, 2014 In both cases I would recommend the APO-Summicron. Being APO is meaningless on the MM, but these lenses are very sharp and bring the best out if the sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted July 5, 2014 Share #3 Â Posted July 5, 2014 Summilux 75/1.4 if you can handle the beast. Simply mind blowing on the MM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 5, 2014 Share #4 Â Posted July 5, 2014 THP is so right - the 75 Summilux is just amazing on the Monochrom. The older lenses take the edge off the razor sharpness of the Monochrom sensor but bring out it's tonal ranges beautifully. Â I also have the 75 Summicron and 90 Macro-Elmar. All these lenses are fantastic on the Monochrom. It just depends what you are looking for. Â If you want a 90mm lens the 90 Mscro-Elmar is very compact and a delight to use. The higher base ISO (and excellent high ISO performance) easily offsets the maximum aperture of f4.0. Just be aware that the 90 Macro-Elmar is a relatively low contrast lens so the files coming out of the Monochrom (and M240 for that matter) appear exceptionally flat until post-processed. Â Having said that I'm sure the 90 Summicrons and 90 Elmar-M are also fantastic on this camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo101 Posted July 5, 2014 Share #5 Â Posted July 5, 2014 I love my 75AA on Monochrom. Â b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted July 6, 2014 Share #6 Â Posted July 6, 2014 Summarit. Classic spherical lens rendering, modern sharpness and flare-resistance. I have the 35 and 90 Summarits and love them on the Monochrom. Small size and light weight, not to mention low price are just bonuses with these lovely lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted July 6, 2014 Share #7 Â Posted July 6, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) In both cases I would recommend the APO-Summicron. Being APO is meaningless on the MM, but these lenses are very sharp and bring the best out if the sensor. Â I disagree. APO by definition means all colors focus at same point. The lens sees all colors. If the red smears, then all colors that have red in them will smear on the sensor. Â If the sensor saw only one color, say blue like early films, then green and red miss focus would not matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 6, 2014 Share #8  Posted July 6, 2014 I disagree. APO by definition means all colors focus at same point. The lens sees all colors. If the red smears, then all colors that have red in them will smear on the sensor. If the sensor saw only one color, say blue like early films, then green and red miss focus would not matter. I disagree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted July 6, 2014 Share #9 Â Posted July 6, 2014 The MM sensor does not see or understand color, only luminosity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 6, 2014 Share #10 Â Posted July 6, 2014 Got a great deal for both a new MM and New 90mm APO Thanks for all the feed back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 6, 2014 Share #11  Posted July 6, 2014 Just be aware that the 90 Macro-Elmar is a relatively low contrast lens so the files coming out of the Monochrom (and M240 for that matter) appear exceptionally flat until post-processed.  I don't own the lens, or the MM for that matter. I did, however, briefly try the lens on my M240 at a Leica store, and later made some prints.  My experience, albeit limited, yielded a different reaction, more similar to the following description from E. Puts (in his 'Leica Chronicle')…  "At maximum aperture the lens may be described as delivering high-contrast-very-high-definition imagery over the full sensor frame with outstandingly good edge contrast and very crisp subject outlines. This performance does match and even exceeds the recording capabilities of the new M9 'Monochrom' and most AgX microfilm emulsions……(edit) At smaller apertures the performance is not reduced…."  I wonder about your sample….and/or processing workflow….or perhaps the issue is that most files from the MM (as reported on the forum) tend to come out somewhat flat.  Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted July 6, 2014 Share #12  Posted July 6, 2014 Got a great deal for both a new MM and New 90mm APOThanks for all the feed back   Congratulations!  A great combination.  I own all the lenses mentioned in this thread, and if your preference is 90mm that lens cannot be beat, especially on the Monochrom.  Again congratulations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinicio Posted July 6, 2014 Share #13 Â Posted July 6, 2014 75 Summicron on MM is a must Easier than 75 summilux, fantastic in sharpness and contrast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted July 6, 2014 Share #14 Â Posted July 6, 2014 I think there is a big misunderstanding about this concept of apochromatic aberration. As mentioned before the Apo-correction makes sure that all three colors are focused on the same plane. Even though the MM sensor doesn't "see" color, this still matters greatly. What happens if one color is not focused on the same plane is that a soft line is added to the sharp lines created by the colors that do fall on the plane of focus. Somewhat exaggeratedly you could say that a soft image is laid over your sharp image. Â Let's not forget that the 50 Apo was designed to be released and used with the MM specifically in order to make the most out of the sensor's capabilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 6, 2014 Share #15  Posted July 6, 2014 Congratulations! A great combination.  I own all the lenses mentioned in this thread, and if your preference is 90mm that lens cannot be beat, especially on the Monochrom.  Again congratulations Thank you Sir,I was meant to have bought a MM in April but I got poisioned into buying a D4s instead so needed a wee bitty of time to save for the MM I look forward to sharing some nice B&W pictures when I get it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted July 6, 2014 Share #16 Â Posted July 6, 2014 I have had one for a year and a half, I have been on a lens upgrade program ever since. That sensor loves higher resolving lenses. Like the 90mm APO-Summicron.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted July 6, 2014 Share #17  Posted July 6, 2014 Got a great deal for both a new MM and New 90mm APOThanks for all the feed back  I love how the MM renders with that lens. Congrats. Next try the APO50 and you will be hooked on MM photography. I know you have the Noctilux and so do I, but since getting the APO 50 I seldom use any other 50 I own-all 10 of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted July 6, 2014 Share #18 Â Posted July 6, 2014 75mm Summicron for me ; do also get the x1.25 magnifier as the short focus throw coupled with narrow DOF take a bit of time to master. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 6, 2014 Share #19 Â Posted July 6, 2014 I love how the MM renders with that lens. Congrats. Next try the APO50 and you will be hooked on MM photography. I know you have the Noctilux and so do I, but since getting the APO 50 I seldom use any other 50 I own-all 10 of them.Algrove,I am going to wait for the 50mm APO as I too have already got a bunch of lenses at 50mm. I bought a 55mm Zeiss Otus when I was at home this time to use on the D800e.............................. now that is a fantastic combination even though it is as heavy as hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 6, 2014 Share #20 Â Posted July 6, 2014 75mm Summicron for me ; do also get the x1.25 magnifier as the short focus throw coupled with narrow DOF take a bit of time to master.I feel that 75mm is too close to 50mm focal length so really not intrested in the 75mm focal length Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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