Guest Ansel_Adams Posted July 13, 2014 Share #61 Â Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I will let it run a while before revealling.... Â CheshireCat and Paul J seem to have gone very quiet! Edited July 13, 2014 by Ansel_Adams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 13, 2014 Posted July 13, 2014 Hi Guest Ansel_Adams, Take a look here The Noctilux f1 is still magical. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
CheshireCat Posted July 13, 2014 Share #62  Posted July 13, 2014 Here is one for you then. The following image was taken with a Noctilux. Which version Nocti was used?  Really hard to tell. I like the subject but frankly, that picture is a technical abomination. So bad that it is hard to recognize the wide open signature of any lens. If I have to guess, I'd go for the Noctilux f/1.2 because of the dull colors (but then again, it could be a 0.95 shot improperly scanned).  If that is really a Noctilux, and that is your average image quality, then you could have saved a lot of money 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted July 13, 2014 Share #63 Â Posted July 13, 2014 Really hard to tell. Â My point exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 13, 2014 Share #64  Posted July 13, 2014 I will let it run a while before revealling.... CheshireCat and Paul J seem to have gone very quiet!  Sorry for the delay; I am currently in Spain and went around eating some tapas. Lunch at 3pm here, you know. I love Spain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 13, 2014 Share #65 Â Posted July 13, 2014 My point exactly. Â If your point is that it is hard to tell which lens has been used to shoot a misfocused, overexposed and improperly scanned image of a guy in a dark pub, downsampled to sub-VGA resolution... well, then I have to agree with you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbl Posted July 13, 2014 Share #66 Â Posted July 13, 2014 I think it's the f/1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted July 13, 2014 Share #67  Posted July 13, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) If your point is that it is hard to tell which lens has been used to shoot a misfocused, overexposed and improperly scanned image of a guy in a dark pub, downsampled to sub-VGA resolution... well, then I have to agree with you  Sounds like you need to have a siesta after all those tapas mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted July 14, 2014 Share #68 Â Posted July 14, 2014 So, of those who said they could tell the difference any more willing to step up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted July 14, 2014 Share #69 Â Posted July 14, 2014 f1:rolleyes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted July 14, 2014 Share #70  Posted July 14, 2014 OK. So far we have  0.95 = 0 people 1= two people 1.2 = two people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 14, 2014 Share #71  Posted July 14, 2014 OK. So far we have  0.95 = 0 people 1= two people 1.2 = two people  Not exactly. I am half for 0.95 and half for 1.2, so you have:  0.95 = 0.5 people 1= 2 people 1.2 = 1.5 people  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted July 14, 2014 Share #72 Â Posted July 14, 2014 I am half for 0.95 and half for 1.2, so you have: Â Â Â Â Which completely defeats your own argument that you can tell which is which :roll eyes: Â Anyway, you are wrong. I didn't use half of one lens and half of another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 14, 2014 Share #73 Â Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) I think the point people are trying to make here is that it is pointless trying to determine one lens from another from pictures posted on a forum owing to the size constraints, different monitor characteristics, and modifications made by compression algorithms. Â I envisage you future back-slapping yourself at having seemingly proved yourself right because the consensus differed on which lens was used when in reality all you'd have proved would be the above. Â Pete. Edited July 14, 2014 by farnz 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 14, 2014 Share #74 Â Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) I think a pencil sketch would have been more to the point. At least it couldn't be drawn OOF. Â Regarding the Noctilux, or any lens. It's a tool with it's own characteristics. If you don't understand the characteristics, you are wasting your time and money, but don't criticize the tool for you ignorance and lack of talent. Edited July 14, 2014 by erl 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 14, 2014 Share #75 Â Posted July 14, 2014 Which completely defeats your own argument that you can tell which is which :roll eyes:Â Anyway, you are wrong. I didn't use half of one lens and half of another. Â Post two photos properly shot wide open and I (and most people here) will tell you which is which. Now please, let's get over with this farce. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted July 14, 2014 Share #76 Â Posted July 14, 2014 This argument is completely pointless. Most people that own multiple 50mm lenses will tell you that of course you can make it an exercise to shoot images with different lenses that look alike. That isn't the point though. You own different lenses because each of them has a physical attribute (size) or optical quality (bokeh at certain aperture/ distance, drawing) that allows the owner to get photos he otherwise wouldn't get. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbl Posted July 14, 2014 Share #77 Â Posted July 14, 2014 This argument is completely pointless. Most people that own multiple 50mm lenses will tell you that of course you can make it an exercise to shoot images with different lenses that look alike. That isn't the point though. You own different lenses because each of them has a physical attribute (size) or optical quality (bokeh at certain aperture/ distance, drawing) that allows the owner to get photos he otherwise wouldn't get. Â Â And/or you enjoy using different kinds of the same lenses. Can I really tell the difference between a v2 and v5 Summicron at f/4? I doubt it, but I like using them both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted July 14, 2014 Share #78  Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) I think the point people are trying to make here is that it is pointless trying to determine one lens from another from pictures posted on a forum owing to the size constraints, different monitor characteristics, and modifications made by compression algorithms.  Pete.  Ah, excuses excuses.... There were no such conditions when it was said the lenses were easy to tell apart... Edited July 14, 2014 by Ansel_Adams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ansel_Adams Posted July 14, 2014 Share #79 Â Posted July 14, 2014 Post two photos properly shot wide open and I (and most people here) will tell you which is which.Now please, let's get over with this farce. Â And more excuses.... Now it has to be two shots... There is nothing wrong with the one I already posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 14, 2014 Share #80 Â Posted July 14, 2014 Your 'excuses' are my reasons. Â Pete. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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