nameBrandon Posted June 1, 2014 Share #1 Posted June 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've found a good deal on a pre-asph 50 lux 1.4 (43). From what I understand, the 46 is optically the same as well. I was looking for some examples to evaluate sharpness wide open. I know the ASPH is where the sharp end is, but it's not in the budget, sadly. I'm just curious as to how sharp (or not sharp) the 43 version of the 50 lux is. I have the 50 Planar f/2 which I like, but I'm looking for something with a bit more low-light flexibility. I know the 50 lux won't compete wide-open in the sharpness department, I'm just curious how far off it is. I've searched through flickr, but it's a crapshoot with all the differently coded lenses, so if anyone has some example shots I could look at (bonus points for higher resolution, so I can peep a bit) I would really appreciate it. Thank you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Hi nameBrandon, Take a look here Looking for (wide-open) examples.. 50 lux 1.4 pre-asph (43/46)?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
IWC Doppel Posted June 1, 2014 Share #2 Posted June 1, 2014 It's a Lovely lens, I had the 43 and 46 and kept the 46 as it was virtually identical and focusses at 0.7. There is something special IMO about this lens, the few below are all unsharpened and as they left the camera, jpg and RAW. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/228160-looking-for-wide-open-examples-50-lux-14-pre-asph-4346/?do=findComment&comment=2602162'>More sharing options...
nameBrandon Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted June 1, 2014 It's a Lovely lens, I had the 43 and 46 and kept the 46 as it was virtually identical and focusses at 0.7. There is something special IMO about this lens, the few below are all unsharpened and as they left the camera, jpg and RAW. Lovely shots!! I really like the look of those, especially the bokeh on the last one. I'll have to look into the MFD on the 43.. I assuming if the 46 goes to 0.7, the 43 is just 1m? I'll have to get the tape measure out and see what a 1m MFD means for portraits as far as filling the frame. Thank you again, that is exactly the kind of images I was trying to find on flickr and could not! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickp13 Posted June 1, 2014 Share #4 Posted June 1, 2014 at f1.7. lovely lens, small, easy to focus, most versatile. don't hesitate Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/228160-looking-for-wide-open-examples-50-lux-14-pre-asph-4346/?do=findComment&comment=2602174'>More sharing options...
nameBrandon Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted June 1, 2014 Thanks Rick, great shots! I think I'm sold, and looking at the price of the e46 (used), I'm definitely looking at the 43 now. It's just a matter of deciding if f1/.4 + 1m MFD is worth it over the Planar's f/2 + 0.7m. I'll have to go back through my old shots and see if I can get a feel for how often I've shot < 1m. Tough call.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickp13 Posted June 1, 2014 Share #6 Posted June 1, 2014 you'll have to decide if .7 or 1 meter minimum focusing distance is important to you and your subjects. i'd suggest that the lens quality (mine was part number 11114) will allow you to crop if necessary to close the gap between the two lens models. the duck photo, for example, is about 1/4 of the full frame. good luck 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlindstrom Posted June 2, 2014 Share #7 Posted June 2, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I had the e46 on M9 and it was fantastic. You can't go wrong with this lens. A true Mandler classic & jewel in it's own right. //Juha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted June 2, 2014 Share #8 Posted June 2, 2014 The E46 is also a little quicker to focus and my copy had lower resistance so I preferred it in use as well. I also like this lens with higher ISO wide open, doesn't seem to clash with M9 noise like some lenses seem too, one at ISO1000 again, no NR or sharpening and just the jpg (the AWB looked well out on the DNG, so if I was to develop I'd tone down the reds and improve the complexion, but you can see the lens draw) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/228160-looking-for-wide-open-examples-50-lux-14-pre-asph-4346/?do=findComment&comment=2602290'>More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 2, 2014 Share #9 Posted June 2, 2014 I would struggle to find examples, but when I changed from pre-aspheric to aspheric lens it was the corners which improved the most when shooting wide-open with the aspheric (so how important this is will depend on your subject matter). Centrally there was not the same distinct improvement and although its a few years ago now since I used one, I would say that the pre-aspheric still rates as an excellent fast standard lens. Like other fast Mandler designed pre-aspheric lenses, it exhibited fabulous detail and tonal smoothness when stopped down. In an ideal (and financially unconstrained world) it would be nice to own both lenses! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted June 2, 2014 Share #10 Posted June 2, 2014 I did find an old one taken with the E43, this was at 1/20th, so a little softer than it might be. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/228160-looking-for-wide-open-examples-50-lux-14-pre-asph-4346/?do=findComment&comment=2602298'>More sharing options...
brusby Posted June 2, 2014 Share #11 Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) The first lens I bought a couple years ago when I decided to start doing a little photography again was the version 2 Summilux 50mm (chrome E43, focus to 1m). It's a terrific lens -- sharp, but not too analytical, and with nice Mandler era bokeh. This is one of my very first test shots of our local guitar repair guy in the natural light of his shop, taken just a few days after getting the lens. I'd process it differently now. Anyway . . . Note: Wide open at f/1.4. Lowered the contrast a bit from the original. If you're interested in seeing the real detail, here's a link to the full size image. Focused on his eyes. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8329/8145978958_dcb5aa2caa_o.jpg Edited June 2, 2014 by brusby 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 5, 2014 Share #12 Posted June 5, 2014 My one is a very old E43 (1961) ... perfect glass, a lens I'll never give away which is worth to use wide open, be it for you want to enjoy its pleasant OOF... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ... or for you are in the dark (both on M8) 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ... or for you are in the dark (both on M8) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/228160-looking-for-wide-open-examples-50-lux-14-pre-asph-4346/?do=findComment&comment=2604898'>More sharing options...
nameBrandon Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share #13 Posted June 5, 2014 Thanks all! Definitely some great stuff here.. I've been using the 2/50 Planar lately and when that thing hits, it's almost too sharp. I will definitely look into the e43, just a matter of finding one at a good price! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malabito Posted June 12, 2014 Share #14 Posted June 12, 2014 Its one of the first lenses i got for my m, i am still not confident focusing on things that are not close by, they seem not to be sharp, could be me. But on close range portraits i love it. All of these were shot at 1.4 or 2.0: L1001543 by malabito, on Flickr L1000972 by malabito, on Flickr L1000792 by malabito, on Flickr L1000317 by malabito, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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