Is this a new Leica 35 Summicron-M ?

[menos I M6]

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Casually clicking on a Leica website shows an image of the M lens range:

 

Leica M Monochrom // M-System // Photography - Leica Camera AG

 

Hover the mouse over the button "M-LENSES" directly under the image.

 

Can you spot which 35mm lens is placed directly in front of the 21mm lens in the center?

 

It appears to be a 35mm f2 lens but looks differently from the current ASPH Summicron lens as it's aperture dial is wider and it's nose is flush with the aperture dial and rest of the barrel.

 

Is this a new 35mm Summicron?

 

(and no, this is not the 35mm Summarit - this is shown in the same image to the right in the background).

 

On second thought - the 21mm lens next to it appears to be a 21mm f3.4 Super Elmar in it's original "slim" barrel incarnation which later had been revised with a larger diameter base.

Could it be that Leica had envisioned a revision of the current Leica 35 Summicron ASPH with the same design together with the then new 21 Super Elmar?

 

Obviously the Super Elmar had some difficulties during it's introduction which have been rectified - did this also lead to the delay of the introduction of this new 35mm?

[rramesh]

46mm filter thread?

[menos I M6]

Yes it looks pretty large for a 35 Summicron.

 

Could this be another APO lens?

 

Obviously the product photo is rather old, as also the former 35 Summilux ASPH (non FLE) is pictured in the background - hence my curiosity about this unknown 35/2.

[01af]

Obviously the product photo is rather old, as also the former Summilux-M 35 mm Asph (non-FLE) is pictured in the background—hence my curiosity about this unknown 35/2.

Obviously the product photo is brand-new, as it features the new Macro-Elmar-M 90 mm on the new Macro-Adapter-M in the background. Yet it includes a few older lenses as well, such as the non-asph Elmarit-M 28 mm and the short-lived first version of the Super-Elmar-M 21 mm Asph (this one with no hood and no decoration ring).

 

Some of the lenses are wearing unusual (custom-made?) decoration rings in place of their regular hoods—see the Tri-Elmar-M 16-18-21 mm Asph, the Super-Elmar-M 18 mm Asph, or the Elmar-M 24 mm Asph. So the 35 mm Summicron in that picture looks like the current one, also wearing such a non-standard decoration ring, which gives it an unfamiliar appearance.

[menos I M6]

This lens does clearly not look like the current 35 Summicron-M ASPH.

The current 35/2 has a E39 filter thread ahead of it's beautyring - the lens in the photo has a front rim flush with the aperture dial. and a much larger front rim.

 

It also misses the front intendation to index the plastic lens hood.

 

Again, the 35/2 lens pictured IS NOT the current regular production 35 Summicron-M ASPH.

 

It could be either:

 

- a prototype lens

- a hoax

- a new lens

[luigi bertolotti]

And... what about the 28 left to the mistery 35 ? closes to f 22... but by sure isn't an Elmarit asph... and neither the new Summilux... the first digit of aperture ring isn't clear... could be f2 but has another digit very close... ...maybe a a two digit aperture (2,5 ?) with invisible comma...

[luigi bertolotti]

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Sorry... as 01af said... "old" Elmarit 28 last version, indeed...

 

The 35 can be a restyled f2 asph with E46 filter...

[menos I M6]

And... what about the 28 left to the mistery 35 ? closes to f 22... but by sure isn't an Elmarit asph... and neither the new Summilux... the first digit of aperture ring isn't clear... could be f2 but has another digit very close... ...maybe a a two digit aperture (2,5 ?) with invisible comma...

 

(the 21 at right is, on the contrary, a std. SE 3,4)

 

Luigi, the 28mm left to the mystery 35mm lens is indeed a 28 f2.8 Elmarit with 46mm filter-ring (you can download the original PNG file from the website and see the aperture ring indeed reading "2.8").

[IWC Doppel]

This picture and question has come up before and remains a question. The 'new' 35 Summicron is more than due for an update, I expect September Photokina ?

[luigi bertolotti]

Yup... recognized my error just while Menos was writing...

 

About the 35... in some way, isn't such a surprise they like to restyle it... the current Summicron 35 (together with the Elmarit asph 28) is the last lens with the front ring "recessed" in diameter in respect to the barrel... a distinctive shape which maybe they think is out of fashion...

(of course, should it be identical in optics to the current Cron 35 asph... not a sufficient reason to change mine... )

 

About "new" lenses... has someone understood if the Macro Elmar 90 has been changed (in optics and/or body) or is it only the adapter that is new, keeping the lens exactly as is ? The current one has the double scale made for the 180° shift when you mount on the goggles...

[01af]

Again, the 35/2 lens pictured IS NOT the current regular production Summicron-M 35 mm Asph.

Well—I think it is.

[Guest Ansel_Adams]

It is clearly exactly the same as the current Summicorn-ASPH with a a ring on it where the hood normally goes. Same as a few other lenses in the picture.

[jip]

It's not the same, the whole front is different...

[DMJ]

May be a fistful of new/updated lenses for September to go with the M230 b&w camera.

[jaapv]

Unfortunately, the 230 is not a new camera, just a stainless steel version....

[Jeff S]

Casually clicking on a Leica website shows an image of the M lens range:

 

Leica M Monochrom // M-System // Photography - Leica Camera AG

 

This was rumored, and then discussed here, a month ago.

 

I believe Jono concluded from the discussion that this was a photoshopped image.

 

Jeff

[james.liam]

Unfortunately, the 230 is not a new camera, just a stainless steel version....

 

Can you confirm this for certain? I had a chat the other day with an official Leica dealer in the US whom I know; he'd just heard through his sources that the rumors are true and in fact, there is a CMOS Monochrom due to be announced at Photokina, probably to be delivered in March 2015.

[Jeff S]

Can you confirm this for certain?

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2701247-post1.html

 

Jeff

[menos I M6]

It is clearly exactly the same as the current Summicorn-ASPH with a a ring on it where the hood normally goes. Same as a few other lenses in the picture.

 

Please follow the link of the old rumour, Jeff kindly provided.

The current production 35 Summicron-M ASPH is pictured there with its native E39 filter ring and slim slotted nose including index for the lens hood.

 

Now please explain how a cosmetic ring can exchange the existing fixed E39 nose (which is part of the shell of the optical cell and can NOT be removed from the current lens) into the clearly larger diameter front nose, flush with the lens' aperture ring.

 

The pictured lens is NOT the current production 35 Summicron-M ASPH, but rather a new lens, a prototype or a photoshopped hoax (I doubt the later).

 

Again, as the 21 Super-Elmar is pictured in it's very first (read not available anymore in this design) version with it's slim focussing mount base, my feeling is, that the mystery 35 Summicron has been anticipated to be designed in the same manner and brought to market at the same time, the 21 Super Elmar replaced the 21 Elmarit-M ASPH.

 

The Super-Elmar had it's design hiccup regarding its then redesigned focussing mount with much larger base and the mystery 35 Summicron probably postponed/ frozen in the progress?

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[IWC Doppel]

Please follow the link of the old rumour, Jeff kindly provided.

The current production 35 Summicron-M ASPH is pictured there with its native E39 filter ring and slim slotted nose including index for the lens hood.

 

Now please explain how a cosmetic ring can exchange the existing fixed E39 nose (which is part of the shell of the optical cell and can NOT be removed from the current lens) into the clearly larger diameter front nose, flush with the lens' aperture ring.

 

The pictured lens is NOT the current production 35 Summicron-M ASPH, but rather a new lens, a prototype or a photoshopped hoax (I doubt the later).

 

Again, as the 21 Super-Elmar is pictured in it's very first (read not available anymore in this design) version with it's slim focussing mount base, my feeling is, that the mystery 35 Summicron has been anticipated to be designed in the same manner and brought to market at the same time, the 21 Super Elmar replaced the 21 Elmarit-M ASPH.

 

The Super-Elmar had it's design hiccup regarding its then redesigned focussing mount with much larger base and the mystery 35 Summicron probably postponed/ frozen in the progress?

 

I'm with you here