imants Posted May 19, 2014 Share #121 Posted May 19, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...........when you are out in a city with a WiFi network, taking a photograph would be the least of your concerns I suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IkarusJohn Posted May 19, 2014 Share #122 Posted May 19, 2014 I'm afraid this joins being unable to turn off auto-review as a major flaw in this camera. I would be relaxed about it if Leica had a good history of firmware upgrades and supporting its cameras past bare functionality (M9?). It is odd to have a new interface, based on iPhone touch screens etc, and to require both the camera and the phone to be connected to a WiFi network - some one really hasn't thought this through. The camera appealed to me as a state of the art electronic interface which would enable me to see the LCD image from my iPhone - focusing, controlling the camera functions and releasing the shutter from my phone (to be able to review the image would also have been good, but I guess I was being stupid thinking that Leica would have thought all this through). It's hopeless if you can't do this away from a WiFi connection - I take most of my pictures out of doors! I'm beginning to have second thoughts about this camera. I can use my phone as a hotspot - has anyone actually tried this? All good in theory, but does it actually work in practice? Cheers John 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 19, 2014 Share #123 Posted May 19, 2014 Most plans in the UK do not allow tethering (or "hotspot" capability) by default. I suggest that you don't extrapolate from your personal experience to draw any conclusions about the availability of this option. Isn’t that exactly what you are doing here? I merely stated that it varies by provider and country… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted May 19, 2014 Share #124 Posted May 19, 2014 First off we shouldn't have to create a hotspot. There is no reason why the T shouldn't have adhoc networking. Its the safest and best method to transfer data privately. It is a simple point to point network. It doesn't require any internet access at all. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 19, 2014 Share #125 Posted May 19, 2014 Agree, and I am very surprised it was not implemented that way. In fact, I could not imagine it was otherwise. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenWithAVee Posted May 20, 2014 Share #126 Posted May 20, 2014 Agree, and I am very surprised it was not implemented that way. In fact, I could not imagine it was otherwise. Agreed. It really doesn't make sense that it wasn't done in the way that, well, makes sense... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgrafixstop Posted May 20, 2014 Share #127 Posted May 20, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) At least he didn't compare it to the EOS-M, another APS camera with two lenses no viewfinder. But, then again, for the price of the T you could have 8 of the Canon's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjonny1 Posted May 20, 2014 Share #128 Posted May 20, 2014 Doesn't sony and Fuji newer cameras allow direct phone to camera connection for control? For example, the sony play memories app? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
filzer Posted May 20, 2014 Share #129 Posted May 20, 2014 the panasonic gx7 has it, too. ad-hoc connection to remote control the camera as well as transfer pics to the smartphone... easy as pie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 20, 2014 Share #130 Posted May 20, 2014 Someone on the face book group has managed to get it to work, so I guess it is possible. I can see I'm going to have to try! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 20, 2014 Share #131 Posted May 20, 2014 Okay Well I've managed to create a hotspot on my ipad , and to connect the Leica T to it - so they're connected . . . . . however, running the Leica T app on the ipad simply says: No Wifi Connection. So then I joined my iPhone to the ipad hotspot and then ran the Leica T app on the Phone. I restarted the App and it said 'connect to Leica T'? and worked, camera remote worked etc. etc. So - this isn't a perfect situation, however, it seems to me to show that it only requires some tweaking of the APP for this to work properly, and in the meantime, if you have two devices then it will work. I hope this is of some consolation / help. so - like this 1. make hotspot on your ipad 2. connect Leica to the ipad network 3. connect phone to the ipad network 4. run Leica T on the iPhone It works, and it doesn't need any other wifi network to be present. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 20, 2014 Share #132 Posted May 20, 2014 so - like this 1. make hotspot on your ipad 2. connect Leica to the ipad network 3. connect phone to the ipad network 4. run Leica T on the iPhone Is it actually worth the effort? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 20, 2014 Share #133 Posted May 20, 2014 Fine -or rather a bit cumbersome but OK. I usually have two iPhones with me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEBnewyork Posted May 20, 2014 Share #134 Posted May 20, 2014 OkayWell I've managed to create a hotspot on my ipad , and to connect the Leica T to it - so they're connected . . . . . however, running the Leica T app on the ipad simply says: No Wifi Connection. So then I joined my iPhone to the ipad hotspot and then ran the Leica T app on the Phone. I restarted the App and it said 'connect to Leica T'? and worked, camera remote worked etc. etc. So - this isn't a perfect situation, however, it seems to me to show that it only requires some tweaking of the APP for this to work properly, and in the meantime, if you have two devices then it will work. I hope this is of some consolation / help. so - like this 1. make hotspot on your ipad 2. connect Leica to the ipad network 3. connect phone to the ipad network 4. run Leica T on the iPhone It works, and it doesn't need any other wifi network to be present. Yes, but as stated in other places, personal hotspots are dictated by your wireless carrier, and setting up wifi should not have to be linked to involving your cellular service. There is no other camera that I've used with wifi in this way. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 20, 2014 Share #135 Posted May 20, 2014 it seems to me to show that it only requires some tweaking of the APP for this to work properly,. I don't think so, Jono. I don't think an iPhone can work as both a hotspot and as a "client" of the wifi network created by the hotspot. It is the camera that will need "tweaking" to enable ad hoc wifi mode. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 20, 2014 Share #136 Posted May 20, 2014 Fine -or rather a bit cumbersome but OK. It's not really is it? I suggested using two iPhones to get around this limitation in a previous thread but I was being facetious. Isn't it easier just to use the camera like people used to do for decades – i.e. as a standalone device rather than an adjunct to your smartphone? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 20, 2014 Share #137 Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Of course it is, but as I have two iPhones with me usually, it is workable for me, I can quite see that it is too much of a hassle in general and I still don't understand why Leica did not go for the obvious and simple solution. And don't start about the number of iPhones, the provider gives them away for free when you open an account or switch providers. I'll tell you how I plan to use it. I'll place the camera at a waterhole in a strategic spot and retire to the hide with a 240 and long lens. Edited May 20, 2014 by jaapv 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 20, 2014 Share #138 Posted May 20, 2014 Is it actually worth the effort? Of course not Ian - stupid idea. Although, to be fair, having done it once it works again pretty quickly. I haven't the faintest interest or intention of connecting the camera to the phone, except in the remote eventuality of the spotted flycatchers nesting outside my office window again. But people are asking, so I was trying to be helpful 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 20, 2014 Share #139 Posted May 20, 2014 I don't think so, Jono. I don't think an iPhone can work as both a hotspot and as a "client" of the wifi network created by the hotspot. It is the camera that will need "tweaking" to enable ad hoc wifi mode. Fair enough Ian - I'm really really not au fait with this stuff - the only time I've ever used a hotspot before was abroad, when I wanted to connect my computer to the internet, and it maxed out the 15 mb allowance in less than a minute So I haven't bothered again. It's not really is it? I suggested using two iPhones to get around this limitation in a previous thread but I was being facetious. Isn't it easier just to use the camera like people used to do for decades – i.e. as a standalone device rather than an adjunct to your smartphone? Indeed - couldn't agree more . . . . but if it has the facility I guess it should be useful and work sensibly (as I'm sure it will). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 20, 2014 Share #140 Posted May 20, 2014 I'll tell you how I plan to use it. I'll place the camera at a waterhole in a strategic spot and retire to the hide with a 240 and long lens. Unfortunately we won't be able to text each other when I'm snappin' away at the spotted flycatchers in our eaves 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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