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New 35 Summicron and maybe 28 Summilux?


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Certainly looks that way, and the 90mm at the back is sitting on some sort of new macro adapter, maybe an OUFRO for the 21st century.

 

Looks like the 28mm Elmarit has gone as well. Reminds me on one of those mafia films where family members learn of their fate by whether they are included in a family portrait...

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Indeed it looks like a new summicron, i can even see the serial number starting with 4281xxx, but the 28 next to it is a Elmarit 2.8 from the 90s. The f/2.8 mark is visible. This one had a huge and ungainly hood so I understand perfectly well that they removed it from the shot.

 

I would not take this for a "official" family shot as it does not include all current lenses. 34 lux in the back for example, is previous version as well.

 

Now the 90 on the adapter is interesting, It does not look like the 90 macro, but being as far back in the picture as it is, it could very well be an R lens on R/M adapter. The image might be photoshopped and not to exact scale as well.

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Certainly looks that way, and the 90mm at the back is sitting on some sort of new macro adapter, maybe an OUFRO for the 21st century.

 

Looks like the 28mm Elmarit has gone as well. Reminds me on one of those mafia films where family members learn of their fate by whether they are included in a family portrait...

 

Not sure about the lack of the 28 Elmarit, there is no 90 APO either

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Certainly looks that way, and the 90mm at the back is sitting on some sort of new macro adapter, maybe an OUFRO for the 21st century.

 

Looks like the 28mm Elmarit has gone as well. Reminds me on one of those mafia films where family members learn of their fate by whether they are included in a family portrait...

 

That 90 APO was whacked for disrespectin' the family! Concrete lens caps, I hear.

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No it isn't a new Summicron. Apart from anything else there is no way Leica would be using that old bayonet system for the lens hood.

 

You reckon? They used an old screw thread for the modern Summarit 35 hood so I guess anything is possible right?

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You reckon? They used an old screw thread for the modern Summarit 35 hood so I guess anything is possible right?

 

The Summarit screw thread is consistent with all the recent lens introductions – 35 Summilux FLE, 21 Super Elmar, etc. As far as I know, no recent lens introduction (last 5 years) has featured a tabbed clip on or bayonet-fit hood.

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The Summarit screw thread is consistent with all the recent lens introductions – 35 Summilux FLE, 21 Super Elmar, etc. As far as I know, no recent lens introduction (last 5 years) has featured a tabbed clip on or bayonet-fit hood.

 

Yes, but that wasn't the point I was making. The point is Leica are quite prepared to re-introduce old designs, or indeed create new ones, if they want to.

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Yes, but that wasn't the point I was making. The point is Leica are quite prepared to re-introduce old designs, or indeed create new ones, if they want to.

 

I'm not an "old" lens connoisseur but I thought the current threaded hoods (with the thread on the outside of the barrel) are a new design and not a rehash of something used by Leica before?

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From the image above its hard to tell whether this new Cron has a screw off ring, like the Summarit, or whether it will use a bayonet or clip on hood. I don't know how people are reading the serial numbers from these images. When I zoom in they just get blurry... Regardless, my point was simply that Leica have shown that they will re-introduce old designs if they need to. It is not a reason to discount it.

 

It does seem odd that Leica would include a lens in a marketing image that they don't intend to sell?

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Not really, just a display of Backwards compatibility.

 

Stirred up the internet too. Clever don't you think? I would bet it was intentional given it is the most rumoured replaced lenses.

 

Backwards compatibility with a lens that doesn't exist?

 

I guess it could just be an old dummy prototype.

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Some of the M lenses in the background of that picture are wearing unusual "decoration rings"—i. e. those rings screwed on the lens when the screw-on hood is removed, to protect the threads.

 

These protection rings are included with the lens in the case of the Summarit-M lenses (instead of a hood which must be purchased as an extra) and the Summilux-M 35 mm Asph (in addition to the hood which is included). But there are no "decoration rings" included with the 21 mm and 24 mm Summilux, Elmar-M 24 mm, Super-Elmar-M 21 mm Asph, Summicron-M 35 mm Asph, Tri-Elmar-M 16-18-21 mm Asph etc ... still, in the picture above these lenses do wear decoration rings—probably custom-made— which give them unfamiliar appearances.

 

The 28 mm lens next to the Noctilux is just an older non-asph Elmarit-M.

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A better image showing the 'new' 35

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To me that looks like a 46mm filter thread (by comparing with the adjacent lenses), which would be a pity if it really is a replacement 35mm Summicron lens.

 

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