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This is priced at 295 Euros according to the release, and may well be of interest to quite a few of us.

 

Will this be available from launch, I wonder? I do hope that we don't face the same availability fiasco as we faced with the R to M adapter and the M240.

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It seems the camera does not offer any manual focus aid apart from image magnification. Do you think this is a sensible solution? I think it may make the camera unusable with larger apertures. What do you think?

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Will we be able to use non-6 bit coded M lenses (via menu selection like on M240?), or will only the 6 bit coded lenses be supported?

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I've paid for some stupid things over the years, but I can't ever see myself paying $600 US for an adapter - especially since I only have one coded lens.

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It seems the camera does not offer any manual focus aid apart from image magnification. Do you think this is a sensible solution? I think it may make the camera unusable with larger apertures. What do you think?

 

A serious omission IMHO. I use M lenses with an X-E2 which has focus image magnification and focus assist (peaking) as well. However that could be introduced at a later date via firmware upgrade as Fuji did for the earlier X cameras.

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The benefits of focus peaking are subjective.

 

I have mixed feelings about it because it can produce false positives, especially with wider lenses or when stopped down somewhat. While wider angle lenses have some leeway with deeper depth of field, the high pixel densities in current sensors mean they too also require precise focus if focus placement is critical. IMO, magnified view is better for this.

 

Back when I had a loaner NEX-7 mounted with my 90 Summarit, I discovered that peaking would often indicate good focus in areas that were out of focus, but had high areas of contrast transition. As a result, I always used magnified focus instead and had many fewer mis-focused images as a result.

 

A fast longer lens at or near wide open, should work well with peaking. But it should also be fairly easy to focus without any focus assist, or with some magnification, especially with higher resolution displays.

 

While I have yet to try the T, my expectation is that the lack of peaking will not be a problem for achieving accurate manual focus placement.

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The benefits of focus peaking are subjective.

 

I have mixed feelings about it because it can produce false positives, especially with wider lenses or when stopped down somewhat. While wider angle lenses have some leeway with deeper depth of field, the high pixel densities in current sensors mean they too also require precise focus if focus placement is critical. IMO, magnified view is better for this.

 

Back when I had a loaner NEX-7 mounted with my 90 Summarit, I discovered that peaking would often indicate good focus in areas that were out of focus, but had high areas of contrast transition. As a result, I always used magnified focus instead and had many fewer mis-focused images as a result.

 

A fast longer lens at or near wide open, should work well with peaking. But it should also be fairly easy to focus without any focus assist, or with some magnification, especially with higher resolution displays.

 

While I have yet to try the T, my expectation is that the lack of peaking will not be a problem for achieving accurate manual focus placement.

Whatever individual views and prejudices might be regarding focus peaking, I'd suggest that it would have been nice to have had the option, with the ability to switch on and off as required.

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Jono gives his own personal view on how the lack of focus peaking works or doesn't in this post: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-t/329512-leica-t-impressions-images.html#post2676718

 

Hi There

 

I don't think that's why they've ditched it, I suspect it's more to do with processor power. But no, I don't find it a problem. To be honest, if I'm using manual focus lenses these days I usually just focus on the 'ground glass' EVF - whatever the camera - there seems to be a shimmer when something is in focus, It works for me, so I don't miss the focus peaking and I don't often zoom in.

 

 

It's certainly coat pocketable with the 23mm and with the 35 summarit. But it's not as small as your GRD4

 

all the best

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Whatever individual views and prejudices might be regarding focus peaking, I'd suggest that it would have been nice to have had the option, with the ability to switch on and off as required.

 

I agree. It's good to have the option.

 

Until we can each try the camera for ourselves, it remains to be seen how serious an omission it is, which certainly will be subjective.

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Will we be able to use non-6 bit coded M lenses (via menu selection like on M240?), or will only the 6 bit coded lenses be supported?

 

As far as I understood Sean Reid's test uncoded lenses can be used. Even with coded lenses there is no correction applied as we know it from the digital M-types.

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This is priced at 295 Euros according to the release, and may well be of interest to quite a few of us.

 

Will this be available from launch, I wonder? I do hope that we don't face the same availability fiasco as we faced with the R to M adapter and the M240.

 

I was told when I placed my order that All but the black camera and black battery are expected May 26th.

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I was told when I placed my order that All but the black camera and black battery are expected May 26th.

 

Having colour-matched batteries seems an odd stock complication to me.

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Having colour-matched batteries seems an odd stock complication to me.

 

Yes, but since the battery is also the door, its part of the design.

The only solution would be a traditional door which would affect the aesthetic.

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Yes, but since the battery is also the door, its part of the design.

The only solution would be a traditional door which would affect the aesthetic.

 

Yes of course but they have to make the 'door' to stick on the end of the battery so I can't think it's beyond the wit of man to sort out a hinge for it.

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Yes of course but they have to make the 'door' to stick on the end of the battery so I can't think it's beyond the wit of man to sort out a hinge for it.

 

Personally I like the design...what is the advantage of a hinged door?

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One of the early reviews has stated that the camera will not fire unless either a native T lens is mounted, or the lens adapter; and it was suggested that this was due to electronic contacts. Third party manufacturers of adapters may have to duplicate the internal electronics of the original Leica adapter in order for M lenses to be used on the T. It's not just about the 6-bit coding, it seems.

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I spent an hour at the LA Leica Store with the T in hand. I am posting in this thread because I have to say I was really impressed with the T's ease of focusing through the EVF with M lenses. It was ... simple. I did not need any focus peeking or assist.

 

Other quick thoughts: The feel of the camera in hand is excellent. There is a level of craftsmanship here. Leica is saying the 23mm f/2.0 is almost as sharp as the APO 50. I am not so sure (I am biased though - my APO 50 is my workhorse). Also, it was evident to me that with the crop sensor, even at f/2 it was still a beefy depth of field.

 

I did really like the vario lens. I even might think it is a bit sharper than the prime. What is cool about this lens, even though I don't use cameras for video, is that it does allow for autofocus in video mode with zoom. The camera menus are very easy to navigate. Cool feature of customization of menus as well.

 

I will get this camera ... but my wife will use it more than me. I am ok with that though because now (she is not a RF fan) we can essentially travel with the same kit of M lenses.

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