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There was a thread on here recently suggesting the RF-603 N3 II Nikon Yongnuo remote triggers. They are available fairly cheaply on eBay. I haven't tried them personally but they may be worth investigating.

 

 

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I use the RF602 (Nikon version) for when I want to trigger a remote flash with the M9. When I want to use a studio, I use an RF601, which has compatable transmitters with the RF602.

 

The RF603s are not RF601/RF602 compatable and work a bit differently that the transmitter and receiver are the same part. That's cool, but you end up with a slightly more clunky transmitter on your camera and not having the RF601 means dangling your receiver from a cable when in the studio.

 

more here

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other-leica-products/283914-leica-m9-wireless-flash.html

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The cheapest alternative is to use any old small flash on the M and then the SF58 in slave mode. Obviously the distance is limited with a cable but I use a Nikon SC-18, which gives full GNC functionality. If I am doing an event, I prefer the flash mounted alongside the camera on a Manfrotto bar rather than on the top of the camera, which is somewhat unbalanced.

 

I understand from a couple of people who have bought them, that the SCA adapter does not currently work properly on the M240 MF grip. It is not communicating GNC data, as Leica says it should but only the trigger signal. Unless this is corrected on a firmware update, I will not be buying an SCA adapter.

 

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The RF-603 N3 II Nikon Yongnuo remote triggers don't work on the M typ 240 - the one mounted on the hot shoe doesn't realize it has to be a transmitter. There is a hardware hack easily found by googlebing, but I went for a cheaper pair of wireless trigger/receiver for Nikon mount with a dedicated transmitter. It calls itself Remote Speedlite Trigger PT Series. Not TTL of course, but works fine.

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Guys,

What radios are people using to trigger the SF58 off camera?

I was hoping to use the Elinchrom Universal Speed Set, but to my amazement the SF58 doesn't have a sync port!?

So I need a hot shoe adapter with a sync port? Help!

 

One of these will do the job very effectively. The quality is decent (better than the various pocket wizard stuff I used in years gone by) and it only costs £50.

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There is no value in Leica flashes when it comes to off camera applications. This is because there is no available solution to wirelessly trigger and control the Leica flashes for TTL & HSS. So any dumb trigger & receiver (single pin) is best to do the job. One can only use the flash’s Auto & Manual mode in slow sync. Alternatively, a pair of Phottix Juno manual flash (with built in receiver) and a Ares II package cost 1/3 the price of a SF64 and is equal in power rating. Best is there is no need to hook up a receiver as the flash will receive the triggering signal directly from the wireless trigger. The only solution left to fire the Leica flashes off camera in TTL/HSS mode is to employ a Nikon compatible hot shoe extension cord. Damn 3rd world make shift solution! One cannot even buy a Leica hot shoe extension cord as it is not available!!! Leica, please wake up!

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There is no value in Leica flashes when it comes to off camera applications. This is because there is no available solution to wirelessly trigger and control the Leica flashes for TTL & HSS. So any dumb trigger & receiver (single pin) is best to do the job. One can only use the flash’s Auto & Manual mode in slow sync. Alternatively, a pair of Phottix Juno manual flash (with built in receiver) and a Ares II package cost 1/3 the price of a SF64 and is equal in power rating. Best is there is no need to hook up a receiver as the flash will receive the triggering signal directly from the wireless trigger. The only solution left to fire the Leica flashes off camera in TTL/HSS mode is to employ a Nikon compatible hot shoe extension cord. Damn 3rd world make shift solution! One cannot even buy a Leica hot shoe extension cord as it is not available!!! Leica, please wake up!

 

I agree with your assessment.  It's been a while since I've used my portable flash for any shoot with my R9 (which I know is capable of TTL and I think HSS (HSS a feature my SF24D does not support.)  At the same time; the R9 has no issues working with my Profoto (full sized) equipment with the pocket wizard remotes (in manual mode which is fine for a indoor studio setting.)  Recently however; I've been interested in doing some outdoor flash photography (TTL/HSS) during the day with the goal of controlling the ambient light during mid day or so.  That calls for a powerful strobe, and all the options I've been looking at (mainly Profoto equipment like the B2) won't work with my Leica R9 when it comes to things like TTL and HSS.  

 

I can only conclude Leica does not want other flash manufacturers to have easy flash solutions for Leica users, to possibly to help the sales of their own flash equipment. 

 

Unless I'm interested in shooting only in manual mode; my best option for what I would like to try is to use the strongest Leica flash I know of (the SF64) since it's capable of TTL and HSS, and maybe I might be able to get some nice effects during highly bright sunlit days (if it's not too bright or I'm in the shade.)  Then I find out it's not very easy to use that flash off camera unless like you say (as I had just recently learned) one has to use that Nikon compatible hot shoe extension cord (which by the way I'm not sure if that Nikon hot shoe cord will work with my R9.)  It should, but you never know! 

 

In many ways; it would be much simpler to use a Canon or Nikon with a B2 to quickly get the results I'm looking capture, but since I really don't want to use any other camera brand; I feel I'm purposely limiting myself when it comes to my Leica gear.  I don't care about auto focus that the other brands offer, but it would be nice if Leica would (and I know they can if they really want to) get on board to making flash easier to use when it comes to other flash manufacturers. 

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The argument "why should Leica help other manufacturers sell their kit?" is understandable where Leica already has a solution (e.g. lenses), or while their cameras are not ideal for studio or other advanced flash (the M series), but not where they have nothing comprehensive to offer and where the SL at least is crying out for it. The forthcoming SF60 system will be interesting, but doesn't interface with anything other than small speedlights - possibly only its own label speedlights.

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The argument "why should Leica help other manufacturers sell their kit?" is understandable where Leica already has a solution (e.g. lenses), or while their cameras are not ideal for studio or other advanced flash (the M series), but not where they have nothing comprehensive to offer and where the SL at least is crying out for it. The forthcoming SF60 system will be interesting, but doesn't interface with anything other than small speedlights - possibly only its own label speedlights.

 

That new SF60 looks interesting.  I don't know how much of a difference in guide number the SF64 (guide number 64) compared to the SF60 (guide number 60) makes in practicality, but the features of the SF64 with it's SF C1 radio controller does in this case make it a game changer.  Thanks for the heads up!  Now I'll have to check and see if it will be compatible with the Leica R9.  Chances are it probably is, but it would be nice to be certain.   

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That new SF60 looks interesting.  I don't know how much of a difference in guide number the SF64 (guide number 64) compared to the SF60 (guide number 60) makes in practicality, but the features of the SF64 with it's SF C1 radio controller does in this case make it a game changer.  Thanks for the heads up!  Now I'll have to check and see if it will be compatible with the Leica R9.  Chances are it probably is, but it would be nice to be certain.   

NB it's the new SF60 that will have the wireless capability. The SF64 has no wireless capability.

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