DWatts Posted March 20, 2014 Share #1 Â Posted March 20, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Would somebody please advise me as to the smallest Leica projection lens to fit the M9. I think they might be called a "pancake" lens. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jip Posted March 20, 2014 Share #2 Â Posted March 20, 2014 This is a very small lens but not by Leica, but does fit the Leica. Â Voigtlaender - Die offizielle Homepage - 35 mm / F 2,5 Color Skopar Pancake II Â Also I think the Summarit-M lenses are the smallest, the 50 and 35 are so tiny and compact! They are great for on the go and pocketable M cameras! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted March 20, 2014 Share #3 Â Posted March 20, 2014 Now this is a small lens (but not a Leica): Â MS Optical Super Triplet Perar 3.5/35 Mark II | japan exposures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 20, 2014 Share #4 Â Posted March 20, 2014 What do you mean for PROJECTION lens ? Adapting a lens for slide projectors to a Leica M isn't an easy task.... (but it has been done) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted March 20, 2014 Share #5 Â Posted March 20, 2014 Pinhole is smallest: Â Skink Pinhole Pancake Pro Kit "Classic" - Leica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 20, 2014 Share #6  Posted March 20, 2014 3.5cm Elmar  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 20, 2014 Share #7 Â Posted March 20, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Summicron 40. Elmar-M 50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted March 20, 2014 Share #8  Posted March 20, 2014 3.5cm Elmar http://collectiblend.com/Lenses/images/Leitz-35mm-f3.5-Elmar-(SM,-nickel).jpg Is there a later version of this lens, the same size, but with a modern sequence of aperture markings?  Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 20, 2014 Share #9  Posted March 20, 2014 3.5cm Elmar http://collectiblend.com/Lenses/images/Leitz-35mm-f3.5-Elmar-(SM,-nickel).jpg  Hektor 2,8 cm is even smaller.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 20, 2014 Share #10  Posted March 20, 2014 Is there a later version of this lens, the same size, but with a modern sequence of aperture markings? Nick  No, even the (relatively few) items made postwar do retain the old "European" f scale : the new one intiated with the Summaron 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted March 21, 2014 Share #11  Posted March 21, 2014 I think we'd have to concede that the "Pancakiest" lens ever marketed for the M-mount was the original Zeiss Hologon 15mm "für Leica-M". It sat INSIDE the camera body:  http://www.danblackleica.com/gallery/images/large/d19045.jpg  Of the current Leica-made lenes, the 28 Elmarit ASPH is the smallest.  Among non-collapsible Leica lenses made in M-mount, the v.2 35mm Summicron is the smallest. So squashed that it needed a semaphore tab to set the aperture scale.  http://img0044.popscreencdn.com/122188798_mint-in-box-leica-leitz-summicron-m-35mm-f2-6-elements-.jpg  Among Leica-made lenses in any mount, the 28 Hektor f/6.3 edges out the 35mm f/4.5 "Snapshot Elmar" for lowest profile.  http://pub.ne.jp/monochrome/image/user/1300697818.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted March 21, 2014 Share #12 Â Posted March 21, 2014 If the OP is asking about size when in use the collapsible Elmar's etc. rule themselves out, they are only small when they are useless. The 35mm Summaron is smallish, as is the 28mm Elmarit, but it is CV that takes the honours with the 21, 28, 35, and 50mm Skopar's. Â Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted March 21, 2014 Share #13  Posted March 21, 2014 I think we'd have to concede that the "Pancakiest" lens ever marketed for the M-mount was the original Zeiss Hologon 15mm "für Leica-M". It sat INSIDE the camera body: http://www.danblackleica.com/gallery/images/large/d19045.jpg  Yes, but the Hologon needs the huge Cyclops of a finder. I think the MS Optical Super Triplet Perar f4 28mm must surely win in the size stakes as it does not need to be collapsed and one can use the build in finder on most M cameras.  http://www.japanexposures.com/2012/02/03/ms-optical-super-triplet-perar-428/  I just read that its aperture blades on the outside, forward of the front element, which makes it quite a strange lens. I wonder how it performs on a digital M body?  Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted March 21, 2014 Share #14 Â Posted March 21, 2014 And it may be obvious, but to avoid accidents ...... using most collapsible lenses on the M9 is not advisable and is risky, even though they can be used extended. I spent too much of my life with a collapsible 50mm Summicron on an M2 to want to try it now on my M240 - I'd go into autopilot mode for sure and end up crunching my sensor:eek: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWatts Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share #15 Â Posted March 21, 2014 Thank you all for your Leica suggestions. I have the 40mm Summicron made in Wetzlar together with its very 'skinny' rubber hood and this projects exactly 30 mm from the M9 body. This appears to be the smallest lens / body projection that I can find. Makes for a pocketable Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted March 21, 2014 Share #16  Posted March 21, 2014 I've had the 40 on my CL since the 1970s, and it is a fine lens. But other Leica options for smallest include the LTM 35 f3.5 Summaron (on adapter), which I used on a IIIf as a pocketable camera in the army in 1970: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Of course the IIIf is much more pocketable than the M9! Also small is the v2 35 Summicron which I've had since about 1969: I like the results of both on the M9, although clearly more "classic" than modern lenses. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Of course the IIIf is much more pocketable than the M9! Also small is the v2 35 Summicron which I've had since about 1969: I like the results of both on the M9, although clearly more "classic" than modern lenses. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/223886-leica-lens-dimensions/?do=findComment&comment=2554023'>More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 21, 2014 Share #17 Â Posted March 21, 2014 Thank you all for your Leica suggestions.I have the 40mm Summicron made in Wetzlar together with its very 'skinny' rubber hood and this projects exactly 30 mm from the M9 body. This appears to be the smallest lens / body projection that I can find. Makes for a pocketable Leica. Â You have ignored the suggestions for a 5cm f3.5 Elmar which when not in use is practically flush with the body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWatts Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share #18 Â Posted March 22, 2014 You have ignored the suggestions for a 5cm f3.5 Elmar which when not in use is practically flush with the body. Not ignored - just discounted - collapsible lenses no go . David Watts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWatts Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share #19 Â Posted March 22, 2014 [Thank you for your suggestions but the 35mm seems to have the same projection from the body as my current 40mm Summicron. I do not think I will get a smaller Leica non collapsible lens better than the 40, so will stop looking. David Watts. Cornwall. U.K. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plewislambert Posted March 26, 2014 Share #20 Â Posted March 26, 2014 I use the 40mm Summicron from my CL on my M9 and it works very well. I had it serviced when the aperture ring became disconnected from the diaphragm and while it was away I bought a CV 35mm, which I sold as soon as the Summicron returned. There is something about the way the Summicron renders the image which that Voigtlander did not achieve. I find for general use the 40mm is very good but for architecture much wider lenses are called for; currently I use 20mm, 17mm or 12mm but none of these are Leica lenses (cost!). Philip:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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