ben wilhelmi Posted July 4, 2014 Share #21 Posted July 4, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) It is possible to know the exact count. Right arrow 4x click. L 3x R 1x hit info button scroll down to body debug/data in menu Hit set Arrown down 3x. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Hi ben wilhelmi, Take a look here how many actuation counts of your M8 until now?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
erl Posted July 4, 2014 Share #22 Posted July 4, 2014 Too much work for useless info! Really! How can it help? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted July 4, 2014 Share #23 Posted July 4, 2014 Well, a potential buyer might want to know it. Now you find the answer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Posted July 4, 2014 Share #24 Posted July 4, 2014 Too much work for useless info! Really! How can it help? Go buy a used car without an odometer and see how it helps. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 4, 2014 Share #25 Posted July 4, 2014 Well, a potential buyer might want to know it. Now you find the answer. A misguided buyer, IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 4, 2014 Share #26 Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Go buy a used car without an odometer and see how it helps. Well that would be illegal, here in Oz, but I have little or no interest in how far a car has travelled. I am more interested in how well it has been maintained for however long. My car (of 27 years) has done 360000Km and is in better condition than many at less than half that travel. A friend of mine has worn out 5 cars in the same time. They did relatively little 'mileage' but were not well maintained. Back on topic: I still have the first M8 released into the wild in Australia (2006). No idea how many actuations. It is still working beautifully, currently in the hands of my grandson. He thinks it is fabulous, along with my treasured 50mm Cron. Edited July 4, 2014 by erl Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Posted July 5, 2014 Share #27 Posted July 5, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well that would be illegal, here in Oz, but I have little or no interest in how far a car has travelled. I am more interested in how well it has been maintained for however long. My car (of 27 years) has done 360000Km and is in better condition than many at less than half that travel. A friend of mine has worn out 5 cars in the same time. They did relatively little 'mileage' but were not well maintained. Back on topic: I still have the first M8 released into the wild in Australia (2006). No idea how many actuations. It is still working beautifully, currently in the hands of my grandson. He thinks it is fabulous, along with my treasured 50mm Cron. I think you misunderstand my point. An odometer, like shutter counts, gives you an indication of the condition of the car or camera. Obviously, there are other things that clue you into what the overall condition may be. However, an M8 with 100,000 shutter activations is likely to incur more service needs than one with 1,000 activations (all other things being equal). Here is a specific example. I have bought two M8s. One with 33K+ activations, the other with 728 activations. I have no service history on either camera, but if I was to hedge my bets, I would be better off banking on the camera with 728 activations to provide a better and longer service life than the one with 33K activations. While it is possible that the 33K camera may provide less service needs compared to the low shutter count camera, it is statistically likely that it will not. When buying a used car I use the odometer as a barometer to determine what service needs the car is likely to have needed and I can try to determine what needs have been met and what needs have not. All things being equal (visible condition and service records) the car or camera with the lessor use would still probably be the one to buy when comparing between those available on the lot or shelf. You are right that odometers and shutter counts are not the be-all end of determining how well an object will serve you, but it is one more data point among many to help make that decision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 5, 2014 Share #28 Posted July 5, 2014 I would certainly like to know the number of actuations as a second hand buyer and i regret that it is not possible with the M240. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 5, 2014 Share #29 Posted July 5, 2014 I would certainly like to know the number of actuations as a second hand buyer and i regret that it is not possible with the M240. Yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 5, 2014 Share #30 Posted July 5, 2014 Loren, I don't disagree with you in reality. I guess, in my own obtuse way I was trying to make a point that too many place too much emphasis on the shutter count, or the odometer reading. Statistically your low count M8 may be in better shape than the higher count one, obviously. But we have heard the phrase before, "tell me what you want to prove, and I will find the numbers to prove it!" (thinking, politicians etc.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnablaze Posted July 14, 2014 Share #31 Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) @ben wilhelmi: Thanks for the tip! I recently bought a used M8 body from KEH, and they do not supply the shutter count. However, the body was graded as 'EX' so I took a chance and bought it. Picked it up a couple of days ago, and the body looked like new. Tried using this trick now, and I found out that the shutter count was only 2662! Edited July 14, 2014 by jonnablaze Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorinoxy Posted July 14, 2014 Share #32 Posted July 14, 2014 My 2006 model has till now shot 25495 frames. When i got it about a year ago it had something like 18000... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat Posted July 15, 2014 Share #33 Posted July 15, 2014 My M8.2 is at 84,310 activations as of the 12th. It seems to be doing fine. It's old and beat-up but then so am I. We work well together. I hope you enjoy your M8. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp58 Posted July 19, 2014 Share #34 Posted July 19, 2014 My M8 has 19980 actuations as of this morning. I am sure we will go over 20k today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted July 28, 2014 Share #35 Posted July 28, 2014 No of course not, it is rated at 150K it can go higher, but if it breaks, you can easily let Leica place a new shutter in your camera. Also Leica replaces M8 shutters for free most of the time, if they break without reason... so lets say without dropping the camera etc. Come on now. Why would leica replace it free? And why spread such info on the internet? This is not doing any good to anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 28, 2014 Share #36 Posted July 28, 2014 It is not unknown.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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