wlaidlaw Posted January 25, 2014 Share #1 Posted January 25, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can anyone suggest a lens bag or case that would fit a Vario Elmar-R 80-200/f4 with an R to M adapter and tripod support fitted. I don’t want a case that fits with a belt loop, as I think the lens is too heavy to have hanging off a belt. Ideally I would like a case that could fit on and be removable from the shoulder strap of my Billingham M but would accept a case that has its own shoulder strap. I have been looking on Amazon and various photo retailers’ sites and have found nothing from Tamrac, Lowepro etc. The lens is 210 mm long with the R to M adapter. Any thoughts guys? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mmradman Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2 Posted January 25, 2014 Hadley Pro with customised partitions within main compartment. Superflex pockets comes in different sizes, also flaps can be used to make shelf sitting on top of superflex compartment. I split main compartment in two using standard divider, fitted each half with superflex, one small like 6-12 and one big like 8-18 and have flap on top of each. M camera with normal length barrel M lens sits well on top of 6-12 compartment. I am away from home now but could provide picture later tomorrow to illustrate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted January 25, 2014 Hadley Pro with customised partitions within main compartment. Superflex pockets comes in different sizes, also flaps can be used to make shelf sitting on top of superflex compartment. I split main compartment in two using standard divider, fitted each half with superflex, one small like 6-12 and one big like 8-18 and have flap on top of each. M camera with normal length barrel M lens sits well on top of 6-12 compartment. I am away from home now but could provide picture later tomorrow to illustrate. Mladen, I looked at other Billinghams but I don’t really want a bigger bag than my existing Billingham M for 90% of the time. It is just to cover the 10% where I will be taking along the tele-zoom, that I want either an add on pouch or a separate lens case with shoulder strap. I wish there was a Billingham dealer nearby, so I could see if their Delta pouch would work but it is fractionally on the shallow side (205mm for a lens that is just under 210mm) and I don’t know if the horizontal back strap would be secure enough when fixed round the shoulder strap of my Billingham M. The Delta pouch is designed for a different range of bags. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted January 25, 2014 Update - I see my local camera shop, Park Cameras in Burgess Hill are now Billingham Dealers. I will go along on Monday (it is a place to be avoided on a Saturday) and have a look at what they have. I need some Visible Dust wet cleaning wands anyway. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted January 25, 2014 Share #5 Posted January 25, 2014 Wilson, I would be reluctant to store lenses or cameras into external pockets (Delta, Avea), for one they can get detached the same way get get attached, maybe bottle of water or table tripod. Not sure of internal dimensions of Leica M Billingham bag but I guess it is not very big, maybe slightly wider, 120mm, than Hadley's 70mm, what is the height? Providing you can stand 80-200mm lens upright, ideally with R-M adapter attached in the bag it is question of some good dividers to fit rest of the kit in. As I mentioned Billingham superflex dividers provide some extra flexibility not afforded by basic divider you get with Hadley or Alice/M bag. Camera bag internal dividers - Speed Graphic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted January 25, 2014 Mladen, The way the Leica M bag works (or at least most work it this way, is for the M to be in the middle of the top of the bag, with the lens pointing down. There is then room for one lens each side of the downwards pointing attached lens under the sides of the body, with dividers between the three vertical lens pockets. The inside horizontal dimensions of the bag are about the same as an M240 body and the MF grip makes it a very tight fit. You certainly can’t leave the EVF on. Because I am suffering badly with my back at the moment, I don’t want to carry a bigger heavier bag. I too am a bit dubious about the Delta pouch, which is why I want to see before I buy. I have used the AVEA pockets for years and I think they are very secure but are not big enough for the 80-200. The 80-200 is too tall to fit in the case with anything else in there. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted January 25, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mladen, If I can’t find anything better, I have come up with a just about adequate solution with what I already have. I have to take the R to M adapter off the 80-200 and store the lens vertically in the main bag, in which it fits more or less (it is a little tall). I can then get the M240 without the EVF and a 50 Noctilux alongside. Then in AVEA 3 pouches alongside. I can get my 18 SEM in one pouch, although the large hood makes it a very tight fit. In the other AVEA, I can get both a 40 Summicron-C and a 28 ASPH Summicron. Being realistic, I would be unlikely to take both the Noctilux and Summicron-C out at the same time. It is either/or. The R to M and EVF can then sit with various polarising filters, spare batteries etc, in the front compartment. Not an ideal set up but will do if nothing else occurs to me. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/220827-lens-bagcase-for-80-200f4-with-r-to-m-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=2518065'>More sharing options...
mmradman Posted January 25, 2014 Share #8 Posted January 25, 2014 I'll post some pictures tomorrow. That M bag is really small, not suggesting you invest into Hadley Pro slightly heavier than M with two AVEA's but it is versitile bag and my partition makes it into Tardis like unit - just beware of all the weight of the kit in the bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 26, 2014 Share #9 Posted January 26, 2014 Wilson If you want a small case like in your photo, I am not sure. However, if you want a case that holds all your needs with room to spare (holds up to a 15" Macbook too) I would suggest the ONA Union Street Messenger Bag. I especially like its height of about 230 mm. It has very thick pads on the interior for excellent protection on all sides, dividers included. I usually carry 2 M bodies with 50 and 35 mounted (MF grip on one and L bracket on the other) plus a 90 or 135 on one end of the bag and then stack any M wides like the 18 and/or 21/24 on the other end using Lens Baby tiny zipper cases for smaller M lens protection when traveling. So if you want an 80-200 with adapter and STA-1at one end of the bag, no problem. Sometimes I pack the APO180/2.8 with STA-1 and no problem. I even put a charger in the bag and check a second one just in case. Under the flap is a zipper pocket running the length of the bag for SD cards, filters, cleaning cloth, iPhone, batteries, charger, etc. The rear pocket has a magnet for closing and is good for flight tickets or other papers which can be thrust deep into the pocket. On each end of the bag are small pockets which can hold filters in their boxes if need be. Sorry this got so long. Just happen ton think that maybe ONA makes a smaller version of my bag. I recall I do have a question for you. If you fly Easy Jet in Europe, are you most always restricted to the 50x40x20 carry on rule? If so, I can see I will have to change my travel packing plans for later this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 26, 2014 Share #10 Posted January 26, 2014 Just happen ton think that maybe ONA makes a smaller version of my bag. The ONA Brixton is smaller. But the Hadley Pro, which is somewhat comparable in size, has better weather protection, including the back pocket. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 26, 2014 Share #11 Posted January 26, 2014 Wilson, Here are the two I use. The small one is the Billingham Leica Combi bag. The larger one is the Billingham F-Stop 1.4 It is larger than the Combi bag but not near as big as the Hadley Pro. I use the Avea pouch on it but you probably can do without it. Your 200 mm lens should fit in it with the adapter attached. The body should fit with the EVF attached. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/220827-lens-bagcase-for-80-200f4-with-r-to-m-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=2518511'>More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 26, 2014 Share #12 Posted January 26, 2014 The ONA Brixton is smaller. But the Hadley Pro, which is somewhat comparable in size, has better weather protection, including the back pocket. Jeff Good point Jeff. I see that the interior depth of 7cm for the Hadley Pro is a bit slim for my use though when compared to the 13cm of the Brixton and Union Street. The difference allows me to put body with lens mounted perpendicular to the bag length if wanted and in this way keeps the LCD against the thickest padding of the bag. I have a Leica Billingham and to me either bag is about the same when caught in a rain shower due to the wax canvas of the ONA. Too many choices these days, but most offer good alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 26, 2014 Share #13 Posted January 26, 2014 PS: If you need more pictures of the interior let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 26, 2014 Share #14 Posted January 26, 2014 I have a Leica Billingham and to me either bag is about the same when caught in a rain shower due to the wax canvas of the ONA. But the ONA Union Street and Brixton bags have an open pocket in the back, while the Hadley Pro has a flap over the top. Waxed canvas doesn't help in that situation. I tried my gear in both bags, and both held everything with adequate support, despite the measurements, which can be misleading due to stretch (especially if a laptop is not in the back). I only use the bag for travel, so I don't need to work out of it. Choices are good…whatever works. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share #15 Posted January 26, 2014 Wilson If you want a small case like in your photo, I am not sure. However, if you want a case that holds all your needs with room to spare (holds up to a 15" Macbook too) I would suggest the ONA Union Street Messenger Bag. I especially like its height of about 230 mm. It has very thick pads on the interior for excellent protection on all sides, dividers included. I usually carry 2 M bodies with 50 and 35 mounted (MF grip on one and L bracket on the other) plus a 90 or 135 on one end of the bag and then stack any M wides like the 18 and/or 21/24 on the other end using Lens Baby tiny zipper cases for smaller M lens protection when traveling. So if you want an 80-200 with adapter and STA-1at one end of the bag, no problem. Sometimes I pack the APO180/2.8 with STA-1 and no problem. I even put a charger in the bag and check a second one just in case. Under the flap is a zipper pocket running the length of the bag for SD cards, filters, cleaning cloth, iPhone, batteries, charger, etc. The rear pocket has a magnet for closing and is good for flight tickets or other papers which can be thrust deep into the pocket. On each end of the bag are small pockets which can hold filters in their boxes if need be. Sorry this got so long. Just happen ton think that maybe ONA makes a smaller version of my bag. I recall I do have a question for you. If you fly Easy Jet in Europe, are you most always restricted to the 50x40x20 carry on rule? If so, I can see I will have to change my travel packing plans for later this year. Lou, JD, Jeff and others, Many thanks for your kind solutions. I am not really looking to buy a bigger new bag. For those occasions, like on a still shoot on a movie, where I have a ton of equipment, 4 bodies, about 8 lenses, flashes, lights, diffusors etc etc, I have a large Jill-E roll around pro photo bag with a customisable interior. It even has a clip on shelf on the handle to hold an iPad or lightweight laptop as you are working on it. Whatever I get has to be by next Friday, so any US only bags are out. If I was going for a bigger bag, it would be a toss up between a Billingham Hadley Pro or an F Stop 2.8. However what I think I am going to get is a Billingham Stowaway Pola extra small bag (internal dimensions W190mm; D70mm; H210mm). This can be multi purpose. When travelling, it can be a travel documents, small personal items bag, as I am allowed two pieces of hand luggage on Qatar Business later this week. It will alternatively fit either the 80-200 with the R to M adapter and lastly can fit my back up Olympus EP-5 with the 12-50 fitted (but the EVF4 removed), for when I don’t want to carry a Leica around. I will measure the hand luggage case I use all the time on Easyjet later today and post here. You need to read their rules carefully (Baggage allowances | easyJet) as it is not straightforward and depends on the ticket you have bought. As long as I don’t unzip the extra depth extension, it is always fine but watch the weight, as a number of other European carriers, which you might be using for connecting flights, have got very sticky over weight of hand luggage. I have ended up with lenses in every pocket to get over this, which is just plain stupid, since as soon as you are away from the check in desk, they go straight back in the hand luggage. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted January 26, 2014 The bag I regularly take on EasyJet as Cabin Baggage is H:48cm W:32cm & D:22cm. A couple of times on very full flights, the cabin staff have tried to take the bag away from me to stow in the hold. My reply to this is: “That’s fine if you can confirm to me in writing, that your insurance will cover £25,000 of professional photographic equipment for all risks, both damage and theft in an unlocked bag. By taking the bag out of my possession, you are invalidating my insurance.” The usual reply is: “Ah quite understand sir. We will take someone else’s bag instead.” I don’t mind if it is stored at the end of the cabin but I don’t want it chucked in the hold like a rugby ball, which is very likely to upset the rangefinders. A few years ago I was on an American Eagle flight on a small SAAB Fairchild prop plane in the Caribbean, where they always take hand luggage away, since the overhead bins are tiny. When I arrived at St Croix, we saw a ground worker kicking or throwing the bags out of the hold from where they crashed down onto the concrete apron. A business colleague, a St Croix resident, who is a very large ex-professional American Football player and was travelling with me, rushed over and explained to the ground worker, that if he kicked another bag, his next trip was liable to be to hospital. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted January 26, 2014 Share #17 Posted January 26, 2014 As mentioned yesterday; Hadley Pro with standard divider splitting main compartment in two, each half is fitted with Billingham Superflex partition, on the left is 8-15 and on the right is 6-12 with Superflex Flap on top of each for added protection or to create a shelf on top of Superflex divider. Image #1 - Left to Right outside the bag. APO Elmarit R 180mm+2x APO Convertor + R-M adapter, height is just above 215mm (good size approximation for Vario Elmar R 80-200mm f4 & R-M adapter) M 35mm f1.4 ASPH FLE & 28mm f2 coupled back to back SEM 21mm & 21mm VF in the pouch. M9P with 75mm f1.4 - good size approximation for Noctilux f0.95. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Image #2 - Items 1 & 2 inserted in deeper Superflex 8-15, 8-18 should work as well only shelf on top becomes difficult to achieve. Image #3 - Item 3 slotted in narrower pocket of Superflex 6-12, M9&75mm with lens barrel down inserted in other Supper flex 6-12 pocket. Image #4 - Item 4 facing up, with shorter lens like 35mm f1.4 FLE or SEM 21mm it sits comfortably under the lid of Hadley Pro insert. Internal front pockets still good for essentials like charger/cables, SD cards, filters, cleaning cloth. Hadley Pro can be fitted with AVEA pockets, I wouldn't put in anything I couldn't afford to loose. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Image #2 - Items 1 & 2 inserted in deeper Superflex 8-15, 8-18 should work as well only shelf on top becomes difficult to achieve. Image #3 - Item 3 slotted in narrower pocket of Superflex 6-12, M9&75mm with lens barrel down inserted in other Supper flex 6-12 pocket. Image #4 - Item 4 facing up, with shorter lens like 35mm f1.4 FLE or SEM 21mm it sits comfortably under the lid of Hadley Pro insert. Internal front pockets still good for essentials like charger/cables, SD cards, filters, cleaning cloth. Hadley Pro can be fitted with AVEA pockets, I wouldn't put in anything I couldn't afford to loose. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/220827-lens-bagcase-for-80-200f4-with-r-to-m-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=2518786'>More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 26, 2014 Share #18 Posted January 26, 2014 Wilson Sounds like taking my Union Station as carry on with Easy Jet is the best bet and if weight is an issue I will stuff a couple of lenses in my jacket pockets like you have done. I also have the ONA original back pack (43x31x15) which probably meets the carry on size rules, but could take my weight over their rules since it can easily hold 9 M lenses and 3 bodies plus 11" Air. Assume I can check in my roller bag 58x43x24 with only clothing? Is it worth while upgrading on Easy jet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share #19 Posted January 26, 2014 Wilson Sounds like taking my Union Station as carry on with Easy Jet is the best bet and if weight is an issue I will stuff a couple of lenses in my jacket pockets like you have done. I also have the ONA original back pack (43x31x15) which probably meets the carry on size rules, but could take my weight over their rules since it can easily hold 9 M lenses and 3 bodies plus 11" Air. Assume I can check in my roller bag 58x43x24 with only clothing? Is it worth while upgrading on Easy jet? Lou, The only times I have upgraded on EasyJet, have been when the arthritis on my legs or back have been bad, to get extra legroom. Otherwise I don’t bother to either upgrade the seat (it is usually only a marginal increase or buy early boarding. However my usual Easyjet flights are only an hour and a quarter and I can put up with some discomfort for that short time. Easyjet very rarely weigh hand luggage. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 28, 2014 Author Share #20 Posted January 28, 2014 As Hannibal Smith would say: “I love it when a plan comes together.” The Billingham Stowaway Pola bag arrived this morning. I found one on sale at an excellent price at Robert White in Poole. It is a perfect size. It holds the 80-200 V-E with the R to M mounted and can alternatively hold my Olympus EP-5, even without taking off the VF-4. Like all Billingham products, it is beautifully made. I would have slightly preferred the somewhat more subdued khaki canvas colour but the black and tan is very smart. Only thing missing was a shoulder pad but I have stolen one off another bag. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/220827-lens-bagcase-for-80-200f4-with-r-to-m-adapter/?do=findComment&comment=2520145'>More sharing options...
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