Tommy Hurtig Posted January 3, 2014 Share #1 Posted January 3, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm a new Leica M user and I'm looking for a good 35mm lens. I off course looked at the Leica Summicron and Summilux but needless to say it's a big investment to make to get one of those lenses and before I actually acquire one of those I would like to look at options and the only one I found that looks to be close is the Voigtländer 35/1,2 Nokton ASPH VM II. I read Steve Huff's review but I have not managed to find that many others who have tried it. Anyone here with hands on experience? Or any links to others who published anything online? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CheshireCat Posted January 3, 2014 Share #2 Posted January 3, 2014 I have both the Summilux FLE and the Nokton v1. Hope you find this recent post of mine useful: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-lenses/314285-answer-whether-better-between-summilux-fle-2.html#post2588873 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Hurtig Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted January 3, 2014 Thanks for the info! I'm curious about the size, how much bigger is the Voigtlander compared to the Leica lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 3, 2014 Share #4 Posted January 3, 2014 I'm curious about the size, how much bigger is the Voigtlander compared to the Leica lens? Sensibly bigger. Found this on Flickr (without hood): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If you don't mind the size, the Nokton wide open has a special look and a wonderful bokeh I find more pleasing than the FLE. More photos: https://www.flickr.com/groups/1827751@N25/pool/ Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If you don't mind the size, the Nokton wide open has a special look and a wonderful bokeh I find more pleasing than the FLE. More photos: https://www.flickr.com/groups/1827751@N25/pool/ ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/219494-leica-vs-voigtl%C3%A4nder/?do=findComment&comment=2501171'>More sharing options...
pfhrased Posted January 4, 2014 Share #5 Posted January 4, 2014 Sensibly bigger.Found this on Flickr (without hood): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If you don't mind the size, the Nokton wide open has a special look and a wonderful bokeh I find more pleasing than the FLE. More photos: https://www.flickr.com/groups/1827751@N25/pool/ it's about the same size as the CV 75 1.8 - quite big lenses, but I agree completely with the CheshireCat: the bokeh is far superior to the FLE (which I own). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted January 4, 2014 Share #6 Posted January 4, 2014 the bokeh is far superior to the FLE (which I own). Give us some comparison of sharpness, and bokeh, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Hurtig Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted January 6, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I asked the same question on another forum and got a different answer. They guy who answered is someone who has done a lot of testing (I read his blog) of different lenses and cameras. His comment was that at aperture 1.2-4 the bokeh is great if the subject you focus on is very close but very bad if not. Anyone noticed this? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted January 7, 2014 Share #8 Posted January 7, 2014 Another thing to add to the mix is 1. Resale and depreciation (Leica %wise are better) 2. Why buy new ? You can try and sell on at no/minimal loss if your sensible 3. Do try the lenses on camera before you buy, Leica Mayfair are very helpful and dealers too 4. The quality control and build quality is better with Leica, meaning the performance quoted will be the performance you get (not always true of other manufacturers) 5. Leica lenses are designed and built to last, and seemingly easier to strip and service. I have many lenses from 1960 onwards and all spot on 6. You'll buy Leica in the end..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgc Posted January 7, 2014 Share #9 Posted January 7, 2014 Tommy, I too am in your position where I have been looking at non-Leica lenses, albeit ultra wides, but I also intend to get a 35mm. I have decided to get the 35mm f2 as this is likely to be my 'every day lens' and as IWC states the build quality is second to none. (It also has the same filter thread as my 28 and 50mm lenses - filters are not the most costly of items but are fiddly enough too only want a few in your camera bag!) I am looking at the Voigtlander 15mm as an ultra wide, but the Leica 18 or 21 SEM would be my ultra wide of choice. ebay UK always appear to have several 35mm f2's for auction and as IWC (also) states you would not lose out financially if you had second thoughts and re-sold it a few weeks later. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted January 7, 2014 Share #10 Posted January 7, 2014 Over the past few years I have bought and sold two 35 Summicron ASPH lenses and one 35 Summilux ASPH pre FLE (lovely lens) I ended up about £125 up on the experience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted January 7, 2014 Share #11 Posted January 7, 2014 I'm especially interested in the Voightlander 21mm F1,8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted January 7, 2014 Share #12 Posted January 7, 2014 This lens got great reviews, both Reid, and Schaffler put nice words on it. My concern is it's field curvature. Almost all photos looked great, but in one it was really obvious Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Not sure whether this was a bad copy or all Ultrons behave like this.(see the buildings on the right getting sharper). 21 sem is much smaller, and better, but f/1.8... Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Not sure whether this was a bad copy or all Ultrons behave like this.(see the buildings on the right getting sharper). 21 sem is much smaller, and better, but f/1.8... ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/219494-leica-vs-voigtl%C3%A4nder/?do=findComment&comment=2503709'>More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 7, 2014 Share #13 Posted January 7, 2014 I asked the same question on another forum and got a different answer. They guy who answered is someone who has done a lot of testing (I read his blog) of different lenses and cameras. His comment was that at aperture 1.2-4 the bokeh is great if the subject you focus on is very close but very bad if not. Anyone notice this? No. I did not notice this, and you can check the Flickr group to see if you notice this. Can you please point to the guy's blog ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted January 7, 2014 Share #14 Posted January 7, 2014 My concern is it's field curvature. Almost all photos looked great, but in one it was really obvious All sizes | Voigtlander Ultron 21mm f/1.8 ASPH @ F1.8 + Sony A7R - DSC08970 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ...this might be a treat of Sony A7 sensor as explained here for 35mm Cron The A7r + Summicron 35mm f/2 ASPH – HOLY Curved Plane of Focus! | Leica BOSS Is anyone here using a 21mm Ultron on M240 who could share his experience and post a photo or two? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 7, 2014 Share #15 Posted January 7, 2014 My concern is it's field curvature. Almost all photos looked great, but in one it was really obvious[...] May be the adapter. I get the same issue with a Summicron-R 35 adapted on my 5D2 with an adapter that is too thick (cannot focus at infinite). Funny thing is that I actually have two adapters from different manufacturers, and both are too thick. In any case, I like this "issue" as it gives a subject in the center more pop while rendering the environment clearly at the border of the image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dikaiosune01 Posted January 8, 2014 Share #16 Posted January 8, 2014 The first question I'd be asking is how fast do I 'really' need? How often do I need to be shooting F/1.2? The second question would be would I be willing to carry that extra weight around my next all day? <-- This is an important question that has kept the notilux and summilux at bay. My third point is that, the price of the voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 is not too much different than the leica 35mm summicron. Or the Zeiss 35mm f/2 zm. Both lenses i would prefer over the zeiss 35mm f/1.2. The reason I would prefer the summicron is because, i don't need to shoot that fast. I don't shoot 35mm much; but after some experimentation I've pretty much settled on the zeiss 50mm plannar and leica 28mm elmarit asph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edvatza Posted January 10, 2014 Share #17 Posted January 10, 2014 I have both the Summilux FLE and the Nokton v1.Hope you find this recent post of mine useful: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-lenses/314285-answer-whether-better-between-summilux-fle-2.html#post2588873 I have the CV Nokton 35 1.2 being delivered today. And recommendation on lens setting... Pre-ASPH 35mm Summilux possibly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted January 10, 2014 Share #18 Posted January 10, 2014 I have the CV Nokton 35 1.2 being delivered today. And recommendation on lens setting... Pre-ASPH 35mm Summilux possibly? You will love it I don't use any lens setting, but some people code it as Summilux ASPH (11874). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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