lphong Posted December 15, 2013 Share #1 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just wondering if this is workable: Â Get an aftermarket R-M adopter off the bay, and a elmarit vario-R 28-90; i understand that one cannot precisely focus with all non-240 Ms at the point, but what if one gets an actual rangefinder to measure the distance and then set it on the lens? Â This process is going to be quite time consuming but it might work. Has anybody tried this before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 15, 2013 Posted December 15, 2013 Hi lphong, Take a look here A seemingly ridiculous idea. R-M adopter, elmarit vario R plus a range range finder. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
george + Posted December 15, 2013 Share #2 Â Posted December 15, 2013 No reason why not. That is the way most cameras worked before rangefinders or, later, reflexes. And people took pretty good pictures too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted December 15, 2013 Share #3 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Certainly possible, but why would one want to do that? Â The subject must not be too close, the lens must be stopped down, the rangefinder must be precisely calibrated and securely attached, and you must be sure that the distance markings on the focus ring are accurate... or you mustn't be too picky about achieving proper focus (other than by accident). Â Wood fire has been around for a while, but the convenience of central heating is hard to deny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphong Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share #4 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Â Wood fire has been around for a while, but the convenience of central heating is hard to deny. Â True that! On a separate note, I do still use wood fire at home due to the soaring fuel prices :/ Have to save oil wherever possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted December 15, 2013 Share #5 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Get an M for that lens and then you can save time too. I use it on my M all the time. Â Also you might get more responses by posting on the R threads area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphong Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share #6  Posted December 15, 2013 Get an M for that lens and then you can save time too. I use it on my M all the time. Also you might get more responses by posting on the R threads area.  Thanks for the suggestion but I really would like to stay with film Attempted to switch to digital earlier this year by buying a mono but gave up soon afterward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted December 15, 2013 Share #7  Posted December 15, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just to illustrate. The rangefinder may fit on an M too.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/218443-a-seemingly-ridiculous-idea-r-m-adopter-elmarit-vario-r-plus-a-range-range-finder/?do=findComment&comment=2487706'>More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted December 15, 2013 Share #8 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Just wondering if this is workable:Â Get an aftermarket R-M adopter off the bay, and a elmarit vario-R 28-90; i understand that one cannot precisely focus with all non-240 Ms at the point, but what if one gets an actual rangefinder to measure the distance and then set it on the lens? Â This process is going to be quite time consuming but it might work. Has anybody tried this before? Â No need the range finder, just add the focus coupling stuff in the adapter. It has to be precise, and it will be very lens dependent. However it could be a small digital controlled, programmable device. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphong Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share #9 Â Posted December 15, 2013 No need the range finder, just add the focus coupling stuff in the adapter. It has to be precise, and it will be very lens dependent. However it could be a small digital controlled, programmable device. Â Thanks! Could you link me up to such a device? Tried to do a quick search but I have no clue what they are called. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted December 15, 2013 Share #10  Posted December 15, 2013 True that! On a separate note, I do still use wood fire at home due to the soaring fuel prices :/ Have to save oil wherever possible  Oh, so do I! However, call me lazy or overly practical, I wouldn't stay up at night to add wood in the fireplaces so that the family doesn't freeze in their beds... Wooden pellets seem to be a cost-effective alternative, though. But this would take us seriously off-topic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted December 15, 2013 Share #11 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Thanks! Could you link me up to such a device? Tried to do a quick search but I have no clue what they are called. Â Don't think there's anything like it... But it *could* conceivably be designed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphong Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share #12 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Now I am properly confused. So you reckon it is possible for one with metalsmith skills to create such a thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted December 15, 2013 Share #13 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Thanks! Could you link me up to such a device? Tried to do a quick search but I have no clue what they are called. Â It is not born yet. Sorry. However, 1. Not sure it is really practical. It is likely to be finder-blocking with the non-M lens. 2. For the similar purpose, I was looking for a Hasselblad V lens to Visoflex adapter. No luck. There is Visoflex 39mm lens to Hasselblad V adapter, but that is a different beast. Â Here's a solution that might work. Â Would it work for you if you can have a spare, full-frame digital camera body, with a built-in Visoflex finder, it can take any R lenses, and do not need the tilted micro-lenses on the sensor, even with any wide angle lens ? The cost will be around $1400 though. Â If the answer is yes, then get a Canon 6D and a R to EOS adapter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted December 15, 2013 Share #14 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Now I am properly confused. So you reckon it is possible for one with metalsmith skills to create such a thing? Â Someone or a team with the skill of a metal smith, a digital electronic circuit designer, and a firmware programmer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphong Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share #15 Â Posted December 15, 2013 Someone or a team with the skill of a metal smith, a digital electronic circuit designer, and a firmware programmer. Â okay an external rangefinder should be the easier solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted December 15, 2013 Share #16 Â Posted December 15, 2013 okay an external rangefinder should be the easier solution. Â You need a focus coupler from the R lens to the whatever range finder anyway, whether it's the M9's built-in finder or the external finder. I can't see how the external finder can make it easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphong Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share #17 Â Posted December 15, 2013 I was thinking using the rangefinder to measure the distance between the object and me, make a mental note of it (whether be it in m or ft), then sent the corresponding distance digits against the centre triangle on the lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 15, 2013 Share #18 Â Posted December 15, 2013 There is a very simple solution to your problem. Get a couple of Novoflex adapters and a cheap used NEX-5N. Then focus with the NEX-5N, the lens firmly attached to a tripod. Then swap camera and adapter. I have done this successfully and found only Novoflex adapters to be accurate enough. Â I guess this would work for lenses with their own tripod mount. The Leica Vario-Elmarit-R 28-90 may be a challenge though. Â Of course, you could get a Sony A7R and adapter and be done with it. That's what I did. It's a terrific combination that works exceedingly well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted December 15, 2013 Share #19 Â Posted December 15, 2013 You may consider instead of external optical RF modern laser range finder. Try googling Leica DISTO, Amazon shops sell them and estate agents and builders use them instead of measuring tape. Â Your biggest challenge will be to set measured distance onto the lens focusing ring, tripod seems compulsory with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphong Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share #20 Â Posted December 15, 2013 You may consider instead of external optical RF modern laser range finder. Try googling Leica DISTO, Amazon shops sell them and estate agents and builders use them instead of measuring tape. Â Your biggest challenge will be to set measured distance onto the lens focusing ring, tripod seems compulsory with this. Â yeeeah that is exactly what i am thinking about!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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