xrogers Posted December 21, 2013 Share #21 Â Posted December 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Anyone using the thumb up with the external viewfinder? Â I've used it for several years with a 21 Elmarit and Zeiss finder. I like it quite a bit, and its always on the camera. Highly recommended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ecar Posted December 21, 2013 Share #22  Posted December 21, 2013 Nothing personal against the 24s  Anyone using the thumb up with the external viewfinder?  Yes. On both M8 and M9. Bear in mind, however, that the T-U uses the hotshoe to attach to the camera body and you need to remove it if you want to use a flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclemmons Posted December 22, 2013 Share #23 Â Posted December 22, 2013 I have a 24 2.8 and love it. I have a 35 ASPH and the 28 seemed too close to it. The 21 seemed too wide and far away from my 35. The 24 is perfect. And it is roughly 1.4x to the 35, so that works well for a system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teids Posted December 26, 2013 Author Share #24  Posted December 26, 2013 I have the 24 3.8 Elmar-M ASPH. Just a super WA. If it's sharpness you're after, lens don't much sharper than this one.  There are three 24's between 28 and 21. What is actually the idea behind the choice between 28 and 21?You cannot use a 21 without a separate viewfinder, whereas a 24 can be done. In streetphotography it is really disturbing to change between two viewfinders all the time, for composition and exposure  I really like the 2.8/24 Elmarit-Asph. I also have a 2.8/21 Zeiss, which is first class. A 24 or 28 would be more general purpose. Those few millimeters of focal length make a big difference at the wide end! 28mm = 76º FOV  24mm = 84º FOV  21mm = 92º FOV  I have a 24 2.8 and love it. I have a 35 ASPH and the 28 seemed too close to it. The 21 seemed too wide and far away from my 35. The 24 is perfect. And it is roughly 1.4x to the 35, so that works well for a system.  Still undecided between 21 and 28...  I started looking at 24's more in depth and came across a 24mm Elmarit ASPH 6 it coded + Leica Viewfinder for 2'600USD... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted December 26, 2013 Share #25 Â Posted December 26, 2013 That's not overpriced. I do not have the viewfinder and do not miss it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted December 26, 2013 Share #26  Posted December 26, 2013 Still undecided between 21 and 28... I started looking at 24's more in depth and came across a 24mm Elmarit ASPH 6 it coded + Leica Viewfinder for 2'600USD...  The newer version, f/3.8 though, is $2600 new. If I took a 24mm I wouldn't be taking a viewfinder for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 27, 2013 Share #27 Â Posted December 27, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would check if the 24/2.8 shows less or more red edges than the 24/3.8 in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted December 27, 2013 Share #28 Â Posted December 27, 2013 No red edges with the Elmarit at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 27, 2013 Share #29 Â Posted December 27, 2013 All my wider than 28mm lenses show red edges to more or less extent, including the 24/3.8 asph, but i have no experience with the 24/2.8 asph. I would check twice to be sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicakillen Posted December 27, 2013 Share #30  Posted December 27, 2013 All my wider than 28mm lenses show red edges to more or less extent, including the 24/3.8 asph, but i have no experience with the 24/2.8 asph. I would check twice to be sure. This is not my experience at all. I have never seen red edges with my 24/3,8 at all, this one of my favourite lense. With the CT 15/4,5 (coded as 21/2,8) I see red edges but I would note rise this to a big problem. Often you don´t see it, or if you see it, depending on motive, it can easily be corrected in the flat-field plug in. This lens, CT 15/4,5, is very, very nice and highly recommended from my side!! Regards /Anders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted December 27, 2013 Share #31 Â Posted December 27, 2013 I am really tempted to go wider than the current 35mm. First I had planned on getting 21 SEM, and CV 12, and later I changed my mind to 24mm Elmar, and CV 15. Than, yesterday I decided for the former, but today I'm giving up for some time as I found (in other threads too) out, they all come with a free Italian flag. This might not be such a big issue to correct in the PP, but it is really annoying. And, if flat field in LR can fix it, why Leica's firmware (for Leica lenses) cannot? Â I guess I'll have to see what a Hawaii trip looks like with 35mm and up. A bit disappointed at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdayv Posted December 27, 2013 Share #32 Â Posted December 27, 2013 I really like the 28mm - double duties as a wide angle lens for landscape and at the same time good for street photography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicakillen Posted December 27, 2013 Share #33  Posted December 27, 2013 With the CT 15/4,5 (coded as 21/2,8) I see red edges but I would note rise this to a big /Anders Sorry I mean the Voigtländer SuperWide- Heliar 15/4,5, nothing else. Besides the excellent performance it is also very cheap (with reference to the World of Leica). The image below is processed in flat-field. /Anders Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217915-going-wide/?do=findComment&comment=2496036'>More sharing options...
lct Posted December 27, 2013 Share #34 Â Posted December 27, 2013 This is not my experience at all. I have never seen red edges with my 24/3,8 at all... My 24/3.8 is not the worst wide from this wiewpoint but red edges it shows i'm afraid. Just shoot a grey monitor and you will see them at all apertures if your sample is like mine. Real life is a less severe judge than PC monitors though fortunately. As for the CV 15/4.5, i won't say anything w/o the presence of my attorney . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted December 31, 2013 Share #35 Â Posted December 31, 2013 No red edges with my 24/2.8 that I have noticed. It's a superb lens. Rated as one of Leica's best. Especially suited to travel and landscapes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted December 31, 2013 Share #36  Posted December 31, 2013 Sorry I mean the Voigtländer SuperWide- Heliar 15/4,5, nothing else. Besides the excellent performance it is also very cheap (with reference to the World of Leica). The image below is processed in flat-field./Anders  This is with the M8 I presume? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicakillen Posted December 31, 2013 Share #37 Â Posted December 31, 2013 This is with the M8 I presume? Â M8? Oh no, with my beloved M9. Why did you guess M8? Â /Anders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted December 31, 2013 Share #38 Â Posted December 31, 2013 Well in that case my compliments for the lack of Italian Flag! That's why! If one knows about the phenomenon one might see something left in the corner below, but if not no one will see that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicakillen Posted December 31, 2013 Share #39  Posted December 31, 2013 Well in that case my compliments for the lack of Italian Flag! That's why!If one knows about the phenomenon one might see something left in the corner below, but if not no one will see that Please understand that the image you saw has been treated with the flat field plug-in in Lightroom. Below you see the jpg of the original dng file - and here you see the red corner effect quite easily I think. But this is very easy to correct. This lens is very special but very, very nice to use. May I wish you a happy end? /Anders Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217915-going-wide/?do=findComment&comment=2498925'>More sharing options...
mirekti Posted December 31, 2013 Share #40 Â Posted December 31, 2013 Anders, could you post some more examples of this lens, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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