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6 bit code for 35mm Summilux f1.4 pre-aspherical


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Does anyone happen to know what the 6 bit code sequence is for this lens? The lens comes up on the manual lens selection option on the M-240, but I have no idea what the actual code is. Malcolm Taylor's trying to find out, and as he's not interneted, I said I'd ask :).

Thanks for any advice.

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O1af - can I clarify this?

 

1. Leica give a menu option for the lens on the M-240 under Manual Lens Selection - so I can assume that there's a profile?

 

2. However, there's no published 6-bit code available which can be manually added to the lens...

 

Isn't this similar to the situation with the 135 A-T 3.4 where there was a manual selection option available, but no code released initially? Isn't there an implication that if a lens can be selected, there's a code lurking somewhere? Or did I get this wrong?

 

Not a disaster - but interesting to see if it's possible to clarify.

 

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Does anyone happen to know what the 6 bit code sequence is for this lens? The lens comes up on the manual lens selection option on the M-240, but I have no idea what the actual code is. Malcolm Taylor's trying to find out, and as he's not interneted, I said I'd ask :).

Thanks for any advice.

 

Morning Chris. I'm not at my computer as I'm on my iphone. I too shoot with this lens and did find its lens code but its the code you would use in EXIF data. Even if you use the manual code on my M-E Lightroom thinks its a 35mm Summicron. I don't think the code I have bookmarked translates to a 6 bit code that can be made on the lens mount so that you can use the camera's auto function.

 

I use a Lightroom plugin called Lenstagger to correct the lens EXIF data after import.

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Did not find lot of difference between available manual codings i must say. I would just avoid 35/1.4 aspherical (11873) and 35/2 asph (11879/1882) which bring a bit more color cast than others. It is not the case with the 35/2 pre-asph coding (11310/11311) which sounds good but applies less vignetting correction than 35/1.4 asph v1 (11874/11883) at f/1.4 and f/2. The latter is even more efficient at that than the 35/1.4 pre-asph coding (11869/11870/11860) and does not bring any more color shift. I did my tests at f/1.4 and f/2 only though so i don't know how it works at other apertures.

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Leica give a menu option for the lens on the M (Typ 240) under Manual Lens Selection—so I can assume that there's a profile?

Yes.

 

 

However, there's no published 6-bit code available which can be manually added to the lens ...

Yes.

 

 

Isn't this similar to the situation with the Apo-Telyt-M 135 mm 1:3.4 where there was a manual selection option available, but no code released initially?

Yes.

 

 

Isn't there an implication that if a lens can be selected, there's a code lurking somewhere?

No. Or more precisely—yes, there is a code, but it cannot expressed in six black or white code patches on the bayonet's flange.

 

Some lenses don't have a 6-bit code so they cannot be 6-bit-coded but selected manually from the lens-selection menu only. The pre-Asph Summilux 35 mm 1:1.4 belongs to these. So do the Summilux-M 35 mm 1:1.4 Aspherical and the Noctilux 50 mm 1:1.2, for example.

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Did not find lot of difference between available manual codings i must say. I would just avoid 35/1.4 aspherical (11873) and 35/2 asph (11879/1882) which bring a bit more color cast than others. It is not the case with the 35/2 pre-asph coding (11310/11311) which sounds good but applies less vignetting correction than 35/1.4 asph v1 (11874/11883) at f/1.4 and f/2. The latter is even more efficient at that than the 35/1.4 pre-asph coding (11869/11870/11860) and does not bring any more color shift. I did my tests at f/1.4 and f/2 only though so i don't know how it works at other apertures.

 

So if I understand the results of your tests with manual lens corrections in camera using the Leica 35mm Summilix pre-ASPH type 11870 you would use the 35 f/1.4 ASPH. 11874/11883 to get the best vignette correction?

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At f/1.4 and f/2 yes but it is not night and day by far and i don't know how it works at smaller apertures. AFAIC i use mosty my 35/1.4 pre-asph as a special 50 for portrait on my M8.2 where i don't correct it at all and i'm content with the 35/1.4 pre-asph setting of the M240. FWIW.

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At f/1.4 and f/2 yes but it is not night and day by far and i don't know how it works at smaller apertures. AFAIC i use mosty my 35/1.4 pre-asph as a special 50 for portrait on my M8.2 where i don't correct it at all and i'm content with the 35/1.4 pre-asph setting of the M240. FWIW.

 

I'm shooting with this lens on the M-E and normally shoot wide open to f2.0. So I hadn't really experimented with different manual lens correction settings in camera.

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When I had a 35 Summilux pre-ASPH, I used the coding (via permanent marker pen) for the 35 Summicron pre-ASPH. Based on the fact that they have very similar optical construction (6-element double-gauss, with a seventh element behind the aperture for field flattening.) Did a good job of removing slight cyan vignetting at the long ends of the picture.

 

The difference between the 35 pre-ASPH Summilux and the 135 f/3.4 is that the latter is built with the "normal" thin modern M lens flange, attached with 5-6 screws from the rear. The much older 35 pre-ASPH mount (never changed much during the 30+-year production run) is much thicker and knurled, and attached with screws from the side - so Leica would have had to use machining, abandoned 20 years ago, to make "coded" mounts just to fit that specific lens.

 

http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/images/35mm-f14/D3S_8291-vs-asph.jpg

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