mirekti Posted October 8, 2013 Share #1 Â Posted October 8, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) What is the widest lens you use for shooting interiors without having clients complain about the room looking way longer than in reality? Â Is there a golden focal lenght for shooting interiors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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firstlight Posted October 8, 2013 Share #2  Posted October 8, 2013 Hotel marketing must use 16mm to trick guests .  No sorry I've got no client experience...the widest I use is 21mm, and this looks really wide inside    Gesendet von meinem Sony Tablet S mit Tapatalk 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhanebeck Posted October 9, 2013 Share #3 Â Posted October 9, 2013 You may want to take a look at the Leica Blog entries of David English (here). He is truly a master of wide angle lenses and has written several posts that were shot inside. Â Cheers, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 9, 2013 Share #4 Â Posted October 9, 2013 Depends on the client. I have several that love the shots I give them from the CV12mm. I have a few others that prefer shots no wider than around 18mm. For new clients I usually shoot both until they give me a deninite preference. Â Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intermediatic Posted October 20, 2013 Share #5 Â Posted October 20, 2013 I try to shoot in 35mm when I can. 28 if necessary. I can't imagine shooting below 21 unless I wanted a specific effect and it's been many years since I sold my 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptZoom Posted October 20, 2013 Share #6 Â Posted October 20, 2013 What is the widest lens you use for shooting interiors without having clients complain about the room looking way longer than in reality? Try to get a feel for what your client is expecting, then use the focal length to best get those results. You'll have clients that want accurate photos. You'll have more clients that don't mind the interior looking spacious perhaps a little more spacious then it actually is. And you'll have clients who want the interior to look as spacious as possible regardless of the truth, Generally speaking and based on SoCal properties, I would say longer than 28mm would be to long. Â Â Â Is there a golden focal lenght for shooting interiors? I think you the answer to this one already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted October 20, 2013 Share #7 Â Posted October 20, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Shoot what you want. What inspires you, follow your heart and develop a style. Learn about the subject matter and think of how to interpret that in a way that is unique to you. Then the right clients will come to you for that particular kind of picture and vision. Anything else is just chasing tails. Â That is the path to a sustainable and profitable photography business and your own peace of mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 20, 2013 Share #8 Â Posted October 20, 2013 That is the path to a sustainable and profitable photography business and your own peace of mind. I agree, Paul, but I think you should have added "Grasshopper" at the end - it reads much better. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted October 20, 2013 Share #9 Â Posted October 20, 2013 lol. Â Ugh, sorry. I really don't want to be patronising but I like to pass on what I feel might help. Perhaps I need to word it better or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptZoom Posted October 20, 2013 Share #10 Â Posted October 20, 2013 Shoot what you want. What inspires you, follow your heart and develop a style. Learn about the subject matter and think of how to interpret that in a way that is unique to you. Then the right clients will come to you for that particular kind of picture and vision. Anything else is just chasing tails. What does one do in the mean time? Â That is the path to a sustainable and profitable photography business and your own peace of mind. While I agree what you've described is one if the few paths to peace of mind, I do not think it works for most people as a path for a financially rewarding photography career. For most people, especially if they're starting out now, a business plan is required. And unfortunately, photographing, is the smallest part of a business plan; understanding what clients want and/or are expecting is far more important. You don't have to take my word for it, just look at the new generation of prominent photographers. They aren't necessarily great photographers (I see photos posted on this forum that are better than what the Mastersons, Arias's produce), but they are fantastic businessmen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted October 20, 2013 Share #11 Â Posted October 20, 2013 What does one do in the mean time? Â Be open, be sensitive, be clever, experiment and make mistakes, observe, intrepet, and most importantly, SHOOT. Scrutinise that process and then do it all again. Work out how to make it better, how to make it different, what things to drop and what things to keep. It really is an organic process, get on the path and it will happen one thing after the other. Â While I agree what you've described is one if the few paths to peace of mind, I do not think it works for most people as a path for a financially rewarding photography career. For most people, especially if they're starting out now, a business plan is required. And unfortunately, photographing, is the smallest part of a business plan; understanding what clients want and/or are expecting is far more important. You don't have to take my word for it, just look at the new generation of prominent photographers. They aren't necessarily great photographers (I see photos posted on this forum that are better than what the Mastersons, Arias's produce), but they are fantastic businessmen. Â Short term pain with much greater long term gain. I'm not talking about getting by making a living, I mean setting your self apart so you are at the top of your game. Hard work first, financial rewards later. That is the price of success. It doesn't have to be "hard work". All you need is the determination to keep going when it's not looking like things are going right, learn the skills, create and conjur up new things then it is not hard at all. A labour of love. The more you do it the easier it gets and the more you fall in love with it. Â Oh and yes, you need to learn to be a good business person too. I have found that comes when you learn your own value and that comes when you create something special that people want. Also, by that time, there's probably a good chance people believe in your work to promote it for you, agents galleries, what ever niche you are in. Â You can't have business acumen without talent/skills in this game and rise above a certain level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted October 20, 2013 Share #12 Â Posted October 20, 2013 I find 21mm nearly wide enough and 18mm more than but perspective and distance is much more noticeable on 18mm. I am moving house so will take a few interior shots for prosperity I have borrowed my brothers Hasselblad SWC with some nice Velvia in place. Â It will be interesting to compare 18mm M9-P, 21mm M9-P to 38mm (21mm ish equivalent) SWC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 20, 2013 Share #13  Posted October 20, 2013 From a shoot last week. Both with the CV 12mm @f8  0101FlashGordonPhotography2013.jpg by Flash Gordon Photography, on Flickr  0106FlashGordonPhotography2013.jpg by Flash Gordon Photography, on Flickr  Client loved these.  Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim sink Posted October 20, 2013 Share #14 Â Posted October 20, 2013 First of all Correct your perspective and your clients will like your images. Use a "tilt-shift" lens and take advantage of the controls which you have available on your lens. I use Canon's 17mm TS lens along with the 24mm and 45mm lens. Most photographers are just too lazy to correct the perspective but it does give a more realistic view of an interior. I've been doing architectural photography for 43 years and a perspective control lens is a necessity. You can not do it without a PC lens. If you do you're just fooling yourself and your clients. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptZoom Posted October 21, 2013 Share #15  Posted October 21, 2013 Be open, be sensitive, be clever, experiment and make mistakes, observe, intrepet, and most importantly, SHOOT. Scrutinise that process and then do it all again. Work out how to make it better, how to make it different, what things to drop and what things to keep. It really is an organic process, get on the path and it will happen one thing after the other.   Short term pain with much greater long term gain. I'm not talking about getting by making a living, I mean setting your self apart so you are at the top of your game. Hard work first, financial rewards later. That is the price of success. It doesn't have to be "hard work". All you need is the determination to keep going when it's not looking like things are going right, learn the skills, create and conjur up new things then it is not hard at all. A labour of love. The more you do it the easier it gets and the more you fall in love with it.  Oh and yes, you need to learn to be a good business person too. I have found that comes when you learn your own value and that comes when you create something special that people want. Also, by that time, there's probably a good chance people believe in your work to promote it for you, agents galleries, what ever niche you are in.  You can't have business acumen without talent/skills in this game and rise above a certain level.  We are in general agreement, though my question about what to do in the mean time was more about sourcing income than honing ones craft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptZoom Posted October 21, 2013 Share #16 Â Posted October 21, 2013 First of all Correct your perspective and your clients will like your images. Use a "tilt-shift" lens and take advantage of the controls which you have available on your lens. I use Canon's 17mm TS lens along with the 24mm and 45mm lens.Most photographers are just too lazy to correct the perspective but it does give a more realistic view of an interior. I've been doing architectural photography for 43 years and a perspective control lens is a necessity. You can not do it without a PC lens. If you do you're just fooling yourself and your clients. Â Until recently, PC lenses were not an option for the M system. It was, and generally still is, one of the weaknesses of the M system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptZoom Posted October 21, 2013 Share #17  Posted October 21, 2013 From a shoot last week. Both with the CV 12mm @f8 0101FlashGordonPhotography2013.jpg by Flash Gordon Photography, on Flickr  0106FlashGordonPhotography2013.jpg by Flash Gordon Photography, on Flickr  Client loved these.  Gordon  How far crammed into the corner were you, especially for the first pic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 21, 2013 Share #18 Â Posted October 21, 2013 The R PC 28/2.8 lens works well for many. Also you can get expert advice on how to use it right here on LUF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 21, 2013 Share #19  Posted October 21, 2013 How far crammed into the corner were you, especially for the first pic?  I wasn't crammed in really. There was a window wall (full length window) about 1.5 meters behind me. The main issue was that I put a light to my left (I had only a certain, not great time of day to shoot) and there is some unfinished paint hidden around the other side of the lockers.  In the first shot I'm standing on a short ladder. I've used double spirit levels and a 7 foot tripod to get as close as possible to having the verticals correct. A T/S lens isn't required if you can get a camera position where the shift isn't needed (ie: perfectly square). The client specifically asked for a full room shot here and there's no T/S lens wide enough to get that in a single capture (had lots of shifting light coming in. No way to stitch). I have a corner about 1.5 meters behind me here as well.  I don't agree that T/S lenses are an absolute requirement. A combination of careful camera placement and software get very close. Close enough that most clients are happy. Sure they're very useful, make life easier and in some cases, required. But mostly not. This one is a few days ago. CV 12mm shot from the top of my vehicle roof. Cropped as required.  L1010604.jpg by Flash Gordon Photography, on Flickr  Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 21, 2013 Share #20 Â Posted October 21, 2013 Sorry. Second shot I was using the short ladder. Not the first. Â Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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