stump4545 Posted September 3, 2013 Share #1 Â Posted September 3, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) what is image quality differences between these two legends? Â I know the 35mm v4 is smaller and lighter but wasn't sure what the advantage of the 35mm 8 element were compared to the v4? Â Â for shooting and not collecting, which is more desired? Â thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 Hi stump4545, Take a look here Leica 35mm v4 vs 35mm v1 8 element. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
01af Posted September 3, 2013 Share #2 Â Posted September 3, 2013 For shooting and not collecting, which is more desirable? Summarit-M 35 mm 1:2.5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump4545 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share #3 Â Posted September 3, 2013 does the Summarit-M 35 mm 1:2.5 render similar to the v1 and v4? Â not a fan of ASPH rendering on the MM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marc G. Posted September 3, 2013 Share #4 Â Posted September 3, 2013 The Summarit equals the Summicron asph but (imo) has a bit smoother look, especially the out of focus areas are smoother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump4545 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share #5 Â Posted September 3, 2013 But how does the summarit rendering compare to 35mm v4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marc G. Posted September 3, 2013 Share #6 Â Posted September 3, 2013 But how does the summarit rendering compare to 35mm v4? Â Sharper with better out of focus rendering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump4545 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share #7 Â Posted September 3, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) i have the 35mm v4. Â does anyone know how does the 35mm v4 compare to the legendary v1 8 element? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 3, 2013 Share #8  Posted September 3, 2013 At f4 I think the V4 is sublime for it's rendering and overall look, I've had most 35's but not the Summicron V1. If the MTF's and build give a clue it may be similar to my 35 Summaron f2.8, which is a little more classic in it's rendering and every bit as sharp as the V4 in the centre, possibly more so  The look of the Summaron is very reportage of bygon years to my eyes, with no clarity compromise.  I haven't shot much with the Summarit, but it seemed 'flatter', certainly than the V4 at f2.8-5.6, I'm not a fan of the V4 wide open Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted September 4, 2013 Share #9 Â Posted September 4, 2013 The dreaded Ken Rockwell is the only person I know who has tested the two together. I can't bring myself to provide links but his final conclusion is that all the 35 Crons are spectacular lenses. The V1 I think has the higher resolution but lower contrast. He also includes the asph 35 in his roundup. These questions can only be resolved if you have a clear idea of what you are looking for. I happen to be very happy with the V4, but then I almost never shoot wide open. At f8 it's a beautiful lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump4545 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share #10 Â Posted September 4, 2013 is the 35mm v4 known to have any focus shift issues? Â wasn't sure if was me that missed focus. probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 4, 2013 Share #11 Â Posted September 4, 2013 I have the Summicron 35V1 and the asph... frankly, I ceased to use the V1 after the asph entered : I find not a single aspect in which the oldest is better and if you look for the "oldstyle rendering"... well, digital makes it easy in PP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump4545 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share #12 Â Posted September 4, 2013 i heard this before that one could use a MM w/ ASPH lenses get that too sterile look removed in post while still retaining all that modern resolution just in case one decides to go in a different direction. Â using LR, how does one make an 35mm ASPH lens file, look like it was taken with a vintage l35mm v4? Â is there some adjustments setting someone can recommend in LR to get you pretty close? Â Â not sure how to get there honestly in LR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted September 5, 2013 Share #13  Posted September 5, 2013 There really isn't some magic "vintage" look about the V4. It is after all the fourth iteration of an already great design. At F5.6 to 8 it is tack sharp and renders beautifully. The King of Bokeh stuff is complete nonsense. If you want to soften up an asph play with the Presence sliders. but beware of making something look like a fake antique. Although the former store front here, and the generous food put out for various kinds of vermin, are kind of old-school. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/212060-leica-35mm-v4-vs-35mm-v1-8-element/?do=findComment&comment=2413452'>More sharing options...
Guest Emile de Leon Posted September 5, 2013 Share #14 Â Posted September 5, 2013 I had a chance to A/B both of them on film about 15 to 20 years ago..before the internet/Ebay jacked up the prices on all old Leica lenses.. I owned the bokeh king made in Germany late version bought new..and was very happy w/it..I loved it at 2.8 and F4 the most..but wide open w/tech pan..it was wonderful there too.. That lens was my main lens for a real long time..before I stupidly traded it for the 35mm 1.4 asph..which I really love too and still own..but..I should have kept the 4 version..and not traded it in.. Anyway.. 1 fine day..my bud at the local photo shop said..there is a guy in here with an old Leica f2 35mm lens in silver..and wants $600 for it..do you want it..? I said I'm interested..but I need to test it out 1st.. It was an 8 element.. So this is what I found out.. Its rendering surpasses the Bokeh King easily..the pics..in B&W..just look better tonewise.. I didn't do resolution tests or anything like that..I just set up the cam on a pod..and took the exact same photos at all apertures..with both 35mm lenses..from f2 to f16. But I didn't want to spend the extra bux right then..and the guy selling it said..I want a more modern lens for color..thats what he read in a camera mag.. So I just told him..before you sell it..I'll bet that lens is great for color too..try it out 1st.. So he thanked me and that was that.. But now..I'm wishin..I had bought that one.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted September 5, 2013 Share #15 Â Posted September 5, 2013 I have the Summicron 35V1 and the asph... frankly, I ceased to use the V1 after the asph entered : I find not a single aspect in which the oldest is better and if you look for the "oldstyle rendering"... well, digital makes it easy in PP. Â Hi, There is earlier thread on the same subject. I happen to have a 35 Summicron version 1, from 1962, mine has 'goggles'; I wear glasses and the goggles let me see use the 50 mm frame. Today I would certainly buy a newer lens, but I have no issues in using mine. Wide open it does have a glow, closing down to 2.8 and smaller reduces that very much. Jean-Michel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump4545 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share #16 Â Posted September 6, 2013 is the 35mm v4 known to have any focus shift issues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 6, 2013 Share #17 Â Posted September 6, 2013 is the 35mm v4 known to have any focus shift issues? Â I am not aware of significant focus shift, I haven't tested but I only tend to do this when I notice problems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonogilmour Posted September 7, 2013 Share #18 Â Posted September 7, 2013 I have the ASPH and have no interest in using any other 35mm, from Leica or otherwise, for the rest of my life. It's an extraordinary lens in both optics and handling, perfection in my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 7, 2013 Share #19 Â Posted September 7, 2013 I have the ASPH and have no interest in using any other 35mm, from Leica or otherwise, for the rest of my life. It's an extraordinary lens in both optics and handling, perfection in my eyes. Â Do try some others, you might be missing out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergius Posted September 7, 2013 Share #20 Â Posted September 7, 2013 is the 35mm v4 known to have any focus shift issues? Â No. It's beautiful lens. Small, light and sharp. It's better choose one with a serial number over 340******. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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