Feudal1 Posted June 21, 2013 Share #101 Posted June 21, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think the X Vario is a massive failure.....but I'm pretty tired of people comparing Fuji's low budget cameras to Leicas. They are not....not in function, not in their shoddy build quality, their terribly over complicated menus, or their poor finish. I disagree with the first part, but am in complete agreement with the second part of your sentence. I suspect that the popularity of the X Vario will grow over time, as more people shoot with it and realize that it is a really nice camera, better than the sum of its parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Hi Feudal1, Take a look here Leica X Vario Report. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
marknorton Posted June 21, 2013 Share #102 Posted June 21, 2013 I think you're right. I daresay the X Vario will be popular and it's important to realise that the people here, a few hundred of the most active users, are not Leica's target market in their quest for a 1% share of the market. I recently visited Lamborghini and they told me their fastest growing market is - you guessed it - China and they hardly sell any cars in Italy. Porsche is the same. China is their no 2 market, soon to be number 1, and drive the German Autobahns and you hardly see any Porsches. It's all BMWs, Mercedes-Benz's and Audis. The VW Phaeton, made in Dresden, is 60% destined for the Chinese market. Bottom line is the X Vario is not targeted at us, it's targeted at the Chinese market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onceuponatime Posted June 21, 2013 Share #103 Posted June 21, 2013 I think the X Vario is a massive failure..... Fuji's low budget cameras to Leicas. They are not....not in function, not in their shoddy build quality, their terribly over complicated menus, or their poor finish. I wrote elsewhere Xvario will be Leica's best selling camera as movie stars, sports stars, celebrities, rich n famous, people who shop at burberry, prada, tom ford will snap it up as it is a prestiege product. Re product quality : nowadays nearly every single product suffers : X1 had the broken flash popup, loose dials, M9 sensor crack, Apple macbook batteries heating up a few years ago, Nikon D600 grease on sensor. Things just arent what they used to be compared to the 1950's when it comes to quality products, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuweimichael Posted June 21, 2013 Share #104 Posted June 21, 2013 I bought it X Vario and Brought to Orlando with my trip. I am pleased with image quality and color. It's simple solution for people who dont want to have same camera with everyone else or who owned a S2 dont want to bring it to theme park LOL Here is real life " vacation mode " testing image, process under lightroom. HELu-StyLe | Orlando vacation 2013 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest badbob Posted June 21, 2013 Share #105 Posted June 21, 2013 I bought it X Vario and Brought to Orlando with my trip. I am pleased with image quality and color. It's simple solution for people who dont want to have same camera with everyone else or who owned a S2 dont want to bring it to theme park LOL. Here is real life " vacation mode " testing image, process under lightroom. It's a good sign that you have the S2 and think the X Vario is also good. Now, both Anaheim (Disney West) and Orlando (Disney East) should have similar sights. Do you find the quality is consistent in both places, with the X Vario? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted June 21, 2013 Share #106 Posted June 21, 2013 I bought it X Vario and Brought to Orlando with my trip. I am pleased with image quality and color.It's simple solution for people who dont want to have same camera with everyone else or who owned a S2 dont want to bring it to theme park LOL Here is real life " vacation mode " testing image, process under lightroom. HELu-StyLe | Orlando vacation 2013 I hate to be critical but colors are over saturated and artificial looking and blown highlights all over the place. Almost every shot of you wife or girl friend has blown highlights. I hope this is a result of your processing and not an indication of the camera's ability. Having grown up in that area of Florida, I know it well and the grass never looks like it does in your images nor does the sky. Perhaps this is your style of processing? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted June 22, 2013 Share #107 Posted June 22, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I also agree with John, to me the colour of the images don't look natural to me. If thats the colour palette coming out of the X Vario, Walt Disney would have loved this Camera. Ken. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted June 22, 2013 Share #108 Posted June 22, 2013 I bought it X Vario and Brought to Orlando with my trip. I am pleased with image quality and color.It's simple solution for people who dont want to have same camera with everyone else or who owned a S2 dont want to bring it to theme park LOL Here is real life " vacation mode " testing image, process under lightroom. HELu-StyLe | Orlando vacation 2013 Your heavy handed PP does not allow to draw any conclusions as regards the camera`s technical potential and ability. The way the pics look on my screen, they could actually have been taken with a smart phone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainD Posted June 22, 2013 Share #109 Posted June 22, 2013 I Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miatadan Posted June 22, 2013 Share #110 Posted June 22, 2013 I hope the negative views about this camera disappears soon as from actual reviews from people using this camera are pleased with the iq of pictures Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforum Posted June 22, 2013 Share #111 Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) Having accessed one on a couple of occasion now, the lack of a VF and the somewhat moderate AF combined with high f stops sort of kills it for me. Sure IQ is fine just as with most cameras at this level though one can see a disparity low and high ISOs, This is not as bad as some Nikons where the lower ISOs are weak in comparison the the higher end Edited June 22, 2013 by iforum Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter L Posted June 23, 2013 Share #112 Posted June 23, 2013 Her are some images under low light , a gloomy day and torrential rains, coming back from Calgary to Kimberley, had I been any later, I would not have made it, roads and bridges washed out not much later after I passed through, emergencies declared , small towns evacuated. Good to be on high ground in the mountains. These image are taken at Storm Mountain Lodge and the Mountain shots a little further down the road. These images were shot jpeg with slight LR adjustments Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/206616-leica-x-vario-report/?do=findComment&comment=2356196'>More sharing options...
barjohn Posted June 23, 2013 Share #113 Posted June 23, 2013 These images look more like paintings than photographs and the color is inconsistent. Look at the sofas and pillows in pictures 2 & 3. In the first image the sofas are almost orangish and in the second they are brownish. In the first three images the NR is smoothing out all of the detail. The detail pattern on the pillow vanishes. The greens in the last two pictures just don't look right. Maybe you could post the DNGs without any PP so we can see what the camera is cpable of doing. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforum Posted June 23, 2013 Share #114 Posted June 23, 2013 (edited) There's gotta be more than slight adjustment here these are not the type of files that I have seen come out of the camera. Not much exif data available could be anything definitely a long way from the camera's output Edited June 23, 2013 by iforum Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter L Posted June 23, 2013 Share #115 Posted June 23, 2013 No DNG's, just Jpegs as I mention in my post, the colour differences are caused by the different illuminations depending on which light and where it is coming from. The light in Storm Mountain Lodge is dimmer than shown in the images and is a mixture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforum Posted June 23, 2013 Share #116 Posted June 23, 2013 No it is your white balance that is off and over processed images Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter L Posted June 23, 2013 Share #117 Posted June 23, 2013 (edited) DNG X2 , VARIO X no LR , converted and resized . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited June 23, 2013 by peterleyenaar 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/206616-leica-x-vario-report/?do=findComment&comment=2356627'>More sharing options...
barjohn Posted June 24, 2013 Share #118 Posted June 24, 2013 The first on with the red flowers (DNG file I believe) looks more natural whereas the latter seems exaggerated and unrealistic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter L Posted June 28, 2013 Share #119 Posted June 28, 2013 A snap (jpeg) of one of my Labradors and a crop of the head. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/206616-leica-x-vario-report/?do=findComment&comment=2361106'>More sharing options...
Guest badbob Posted June 29, 2013 Share #120 Posted June 29, 2013 Excellent photo. The black dog isn't always easy to get right. I took some photos last Sunday of someone's black lab, and whatever it takes to get the best exposure and contrast - I didn't. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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