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I wondered why the apx 100 I developed last week in Adonal 1+50 did show so much grain. My fault was to set the output tab TIFF size reduction in Vuescan to level 3. After correcting this the grain is allright.

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Berlin City West Leica M2 CV Nokton 50 mm 1.5@1.5 ADOX CMS 20 II

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vor 11 Stunden schrieb Ernest:

Flappers
M-A APO 50 Fuji Natura 1600 & ADOX Color Implosion

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vor 6 Stunden schrieb stray cat:

Nikon F5, 200-500mm, Portra 800

Thats a nice and serendipitous juxtaposition of two photos: the solemn and elegant Flappers, with its subdued tones, both in color and sound and just below the Sniffer, with the grass rustling,  visceral activity of the sniffing dog, the bold  colors and the warmth of the evening ( morning ? ) sun. Interestingly enough, both are developing from the left to the right along a matrix of vertical elements. Rogs work with a Venetian blind effect and  a promise of a nicer future in the distance, Phils work with an invitation to take part in the joys of life, here and now. 

Thank you, gentlemen, you made my morning. I'll  now go for a walk, maybe along the canal, only thing is I have yet to decide on the camera .... 😱

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Am 27.2.2021 um 20:54 schrieb Krusty:

Hi,

for me my first Leica was the Q (Typ 116) and after that i stumbled into the analog but with Leica R4 and the Leica CL. Do you think that MyFilmLab does something different when they read „shot @ ISO 200“ on a 400 Film (i mean a Pull development) or do they just process as it would be shot at ISO 400 ? Is push / pull only common on B/W or C41 development as well? Do you know if discounters (DM, Rossmann, ) also are able to push / pull develop film?

Just go to the meinfilmlab website. There is a very good article about the pastell look with the Portra 400 @200. 

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I've shot Portra 400 like this a few times and it is remarkably flexible. Once that I recall now was at a party indoors, so with low light levels overall and plenty of pointy light sources in the shape of lamps. Basically I just exposed it as I wanted it and told the lab to develop at box speed. Without too much trouble I could in post create OK-ish photos. There's no real magic - well except for the amazing malleability of colour negative film as a medium, which is pretty magical - but in my view it's not the best way to get the most out of the film. Underexposed C41 will be grainy/noisy in the shadow areas because the scanner will struggle to pull out detail there (how much will depend on the scanner's abilities). This means that one will need to resort to various grain/noise reduction tricks to improve the result (and btw such tricks work very well on properly exposed C41 too).

I rate my ISO 400 C41 films 2 stops over at EI100, unless I need the speed. C41 absolutely LOVES light and it is almost impossible to overexpose it beyond saving. So much can be done in post with a few pulls on a slider. For ISO 200 and 100 films I usually go for 1 stop. The only exception is Ektar which I always shoot at box speed. Whenever I've shot at a different EI I will always inform the lab of this. I don't know much about how colour negative development works but I believe there's a difference between developing an ISO 400 film and an ISO 100 film so it is necessary to inform the lab which EI a roll has been shot at because otherwise all the in-camera work will be for naught.

B&W is similarly flexible and it becomes truly magical when you add the amazing developer Diafine to the mix. It is a two-part developer and each part is used for 4 minutes regardless of which film is developed. Read that again and think of the implications. It means that you can develop different ISO films at the same time. In my 5-roll Kindermann tank I've developed Kodak Double-X shot at EI800 together with APX 100 and Kodak TMax 400 all at the same time, 4+4 mins. 

It gets better though because this also means that you can effectively and deliberately, depending on what a particular scene needs, shoot one single roll at a wide range of EI and then have the photos come out great to OK-ish. I've developed rolls with photos shot both 1-2 stops under and 1-2 stops over and had good results. The end result will depend on the film's qualities as some films are more forgiving than other films. To put this in perspective, it becomes similar to changing the ISO on a digital camera within one and the same roll. The only drawback I have found with Diafine is that it can increase the grain a bit when compared with for instance HC-110 which is the other developer I use. But that tradeoff can often be worth it.

 

On 2/27/2021 at 9:43 PM, Krusty said:

What do you think about this article: https://petapixel.com/2018/02/05/test-reveals-exposure-limits-kodak-portra-400-film/ ?

How is this possible? Because it is on the same soll of film without push and pull and the overexposed pics also look great.

Well done Joachim, it's got a timeless vintage feel. Seeing those two in the foreground reminds me of Dollly :) 

On 2/27/2021 at 10:43 PM, mdachs said:

m6 2/50IV apx100new

What a wonderful abstract Klaus :) 

On 2/27/2021 at 10:44 PM, Kl@usW. said:

Shrubs at the riverbank # lost track, maybe 6? 

Oly 4 ti, 3,5/50; Pan F, Rodinal. 

This is a superb photo Steve :) 

18 hours ago, Ouroboros said:

Two hawthorns, guardians of The Other World.
May Hill, Gloucestershire.

The hawthorn tree is significant in folklore.

Hasselblad 503cw
Zeiss 50mm distagon Cfi
Tri-X in Rodinal

 

Great shot Phil. I really like the colours, the lines and the compressed perspective. And the dog :) 

6 hours ago, stray cat said:

Nikon F5, 200-500mm, Portra 800

Very intriguing Rog. I really like the muted palette.

10 hours ago, Ernest said:

Flappers
M-A APO 50 Fuji Natura 1600 & ADOX Color Implosion

 

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Hi everyone, my first contribution.  Sorry but i dont have any scanner so a snap of the print with the ipad.  M4-p 35 summicron asph delta 400 dd-x printed on ilford art 300 12 x 18 on 16 x 20 with a focomat 2c in the walk-in and then drum processed in my kitchen.  (My wife is wonderfull).  A lone white ficus in the amazonian forest 3 hours down river from iquitos... near the brazilian border.  

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3 minutes ago, lekitr said:

Hi everyone, my first contribution.  Sorry but i dont have any scanner so a snap of the print with the ipad.  M4-p 35 summicron asph delta 400 dd-x printed on ilford art 300 12 x 18 on 16 x 20 with a focomat 2c in the walk-in and then drum processed in my kitchen.  (My wife is wonderfull).  A lone white ficus in the amazonian forest 3 hours down river from iquitos... near the brazilian border.  

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welcome! looking forward to lots more from you.

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M4-P 35 Lux FLE Tri-X Rodinal 1:100

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3 hours ago, bags27 said:

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Ken - these are lovely pictures, but the lower third of your scans is out of focus. is something in your scanning system not lining up properly?

 

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16 minutes ago, stray cat said:

Ken - these are lovely pictures, but the lower third of your scans is out of focus. is something in your scanning system not lining up properly?

 

Thanks, Phil. That must be it! I was using a different system for 35mm and didn't check the spirit level. 

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