thanakornl Posted June 1, 2013 Share #1 Posted June 1, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) i came across this when i shoot into a clear blue sky. When looking at the camera the white spots surface all across the picture, what is this spots? can someone please help me identify and way to fix it..... appreciate all the help Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205821-help-what-is-happening-to-my-leica-m9p/?do=findComment&comment=2335830'>More sharing options...
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macjonny1 Posted June 1, 2013 Share #2 Posted June 1, 2013 I thought I was the only person who could see them!!! They are everywhere!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted June 1, 2013 Share #3 Posted June 1, 2013 the dark black spots are likely to be oil spots, but the white ones looks to be a symptom of sensor coating surface peeling off. it will usually look like a spit spot when you look close up, but this many....did you recently do a series of very long exposure shots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrobernd Posted June 1, 2013 Share #4 Posted June 1, 2013 Did you do a wet cleaning of your sensor? It looks like bubbles that were build when you are using to much cleaning liquid. When the liquid drys then you can see the edges of these bubbles as white rings on the sensor. Try to get a sensor magnifier. I think you will see the white rings. To clean the sensor use a wet cleaning swab like the ones of visible dust but use not so much cleaning liquid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 1, 2013 Share #5 Posted June 1, 2013 Bernd hit it, I think. To add, Eclipse2 is prone to levee a hard to remove white deposit when used in excess, especially if you use an older bottle. If I were you I would have a good firm do a professional sensor clean before panicking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanakornl Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted June 1, 2013 dear all.... never clean the sensor with liquid or any swipe before. therefore the bubble build up from using liquid to clean sensor is out of question..... thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomv Posted June 1, 2013 Share #7 Posted June 1, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) The advise to see a reputable Leica dealer is still the best option. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted June 1, 2013 Share #8 Posted June 1, 2013 dear all.... never clean the sensor with liquid... Then I'd suggest you do. Most likely contamination from rain, spray, fog or similar. Should be easy enough to remove with a swab. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 1, 2013 Share #9 Posted June 1, 2013 Maybe use "smear away"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 1, 2013 Share #10 Posted June 1, 2013 If I interpret the poster correctly the best advice is to take the camera to a reputae Leica dealer.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted June 1, 2013 Share #11 Posted June 1, 2013 It looks to me like someone sneezed on the sensor But seriously, I think this could be tiny oil droplets, either from the shutter or from the bulb blower (some are internally oil coated to keep the rubber from cracking). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookeye Posted June 1, 2013 Share #12 Posted June 1, 2013 Mysterious indeed. It triggers my imagination. Your username makes me think of Thailand. Just my guess: Could it simply be due to condensation? Did you take the camera out in the heat from an air conditioned room or car and maybe also change lens before letting the camera adjust to the heat? If so, the spots should go away once the body has dried out. An intriguing mystery. Please let us know when you find the correct answer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanakornl Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share #13 Posted June 1, 2013 so i took the camera to the dealer and the problem is the coating on the sensor is peeling off. so sensor replacement is needed under warranty... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted June 1, 2013 Share #14 Posted June 1, 2013 so i took the camera to the dealer and the problem is the coating on the sensor is peeling off. so sensor replacement is needed under warranty... Thank you for posting back Thanakorn. This is the second case of sensor coating peeling off I heard about this week. Doesn't look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted June 1, 2013 Share #15 Posted June 1, 2013 the dark black spots are likely to be oil spots, but the white ones looks to be a symptom of sensor coating surface peeling off. it will usually look like a spit spot when you look close up, but this many....did you recently do a series of very long exposure shots? like i said. how do i know? my M9P is on vacation to Solms right now for sensor replacement from this symptom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted June 1, 2013 Share #16 Posted June 1, 2013 like i said. how do i know? my M9P is on vacation to Solms right now for sensor replacement from this symptom. So this is the 3rd case I hear of, and they're all in Bangkok. Does anyone know the cause of this peeling? Is it caused by hot and humid climates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted June 1, 2013 Share #17 Posted June 1, 2013 Insect tracks. You have to clean them out once in a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted June 2, 2013 Share #18 Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) So this is the 3rd case I hear of, and they're all in Bangkok. Does anyone know the cause of this peeling? Is it caused by hot and humid climates? a friend of mine has his sensor replaced twice now, but he lives in New Zealand. from what i've gathered, it is due to long exposure shots causing the CCD to heat up beyond the threshold of the coating (not sure if THIS actually is the cause, but i also suspected so since i do a lot of long exposure shots too) Edited June 2, 2013 by Tonki-M 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted June 2, 2013 Share #19 Posted June 2, 2013 a friend of mine has his sensor replaced twice now, but he lives in New Zealand. from what i've gathered, it is due to long exposure shots causing the CCD to head up beyond the threshold of the coating (not sure if THIS actually is the cause, but i also suspected so since i do a lot of long exposure shots too) If indeed that is the reason, no wonder Leica is limiting the long exposure time on the new M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theno23 Posted June 3, 2013 Share #20 Posted June 3, 2013 If indeed that is the reason, no wonder Leica is limiting the long exposure time on the new M. The M is also a lot noisier on long shots, at the limit you can see more noise than on the M9 at the same exposure time. A shame really, it's the only thing that's not improved. I also do a reasonable of long exposure, and often several shots in a row, but I'd not had the sensor coating peeling problem on my M9 (yet). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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