jaapv Posted May 24, 2013 Share #201 Posted May 24, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) So what? It's lost sales for Leica. Not really. They are still selling them faster than they can build them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 Hi jaapv, Take a look here Mini M? [MERGED] AKA X-Vario. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest tanks Posted May 24, 2013 Share #202 Posted May 24, 2013 ... This has to be a new Digilux but X2 quality and Zoom lens. I will only buy it if the lens starts at 24mm, the tendency is to start at 28mm and that is just too tight for me. Most of my favourite shots are with a 24mm prime. I concur. X2 type of camera with a fixed zoom of 24-90mm at f1.4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 24, 2013 Share #203 Posted May 24, 2013 Whatever. I'm going to cancel my M order tonight. I can't see me getting one until next year at least. I'd happily keep my M9 until it falls to bits and pick up a smaller backup with better ISO for lower price. No one has mentioned ISO. We know its going to be better in low light. Maybe as good as the M. Lets just prey it can take M lenses! I think that as a reaction that is a bit premature and impulsive If you really would have to wait for more than half a year to fulfill your order there is plenty of time to cancel in the coming months. June 11th you will have an indication of what this will be. If you don't like it, are you going to reorder the M and wait for half a year more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted May 24, 2013 Share #204 Posted May 24, 2013 Well, a Digital MD M(140), allowing for a smaller size. With the same clip-on "Visoflex" EVF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huckles Posted May 24, 2013 Share #205 Posted May 24, 2013 Has anyone thought of this? How come Leica has marketed this new 'mini M' with smart anticipation (just look at the interest in this thread)... yet their flag ship from day one was anything but a soft announcement followed by the kerfuffle of images that we all now know of. Very strange. I'm all for Leica making new products to boost their profits (as all business are in it to do), I just don't hope in doing so, they become so 'commercial' that this then becomes reflected in their products becoming more and more like other manufactuerers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted May 24, 2013 Share #206 Posted May 24, 2013 My two cents worth. When it comes to building Digital Cameras, the Germans have a lot to learn. Unless it's made in Japan I DON'T CARE FOR IT. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 24, 2013 Share #207 Posted May 24, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think they need to slim the camera down relative to the M to be able to call it mini. That would mean a high probability of a cropped (CMOSIS?) sensor, dedicated (AF?) lenses and the M lenses on an adapter of a certain thickness with a focussing linkage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted May 24, 2013 Share #208 Posted May 24, 2013 Well, a Digital MD M(140), allowing for a smaller size. With the same clip-on "Visoflex" EVF You know I thought this at first as well, but the more I consider the design I believe Leica will incorporate a built in eye level EVF. It certainly is easy enough to do. I don't think it will be like the X100S, ie dual optical/electronic, but rather a straight LCD like the XE-1. Priced at $5500, same as the M-E it's replacing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 24, 2013 Share #209 Posted May 24, 2013 Has anyone thought of this? How come Leica has marketed this new 'mini M' with smart anticipation (just look at the interest in this thread)... yet their flag ship from day one was anything but a soft announcement followed by the kerfuffle of images that we all now know of. Very strange. I'm all for Leica making new products to boost their profits (as all business are in it to do), I just don't hope in doing so, they become so 'commercial' that this then becomes reflected in their products becoming more and more like other manufactuerers.Highly unlikely to put it mildly. Developing a new camera takes years. It is utterly impossible to pull one out of a hat for marketing reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted May 24, 2013 Share #210 Posted May 24, 2013 Customers that change their mind over a delay are not very serious to begin with....8 months? The launch was in Februari-March. Counting back to a presentation on a biannual show - the most important one there is- is just showing up a deliberate intention to exaggerate, not a misjudgment by a manufacturer.... The thing is they are filling pre-orders that were placed in September at this point. So, there is a big pipeline to fill before someone that orders today will get their camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 24, 2013 Share #211 Posted May 24, 2013 My two cents worth. When it comes to building Digital Cameras, the Germans have a lot to learn. Unless it's made in Japan I DON'T CARE FOR IT. Cheers. So what are you doing on this forum?:confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 24, 2013 Share #212 Posted May 24, 2013 The thing is they are filling pre-orders that were placed in September at this point. So, there is a big pipeline to fill before someone that orders today will get their camera. True. So one must be a very deliberate buyer to order one today. And given the way the rollout of the M8 and M9 developed in the past so should the preodering customers in September have been. There is no difference, including the complaints posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted May 24, 2013 Share #213 Posted May 24, 2013 My two cents worth. When it comes to building Digital Cameras, the Germans have a lot to learn. Unless it's made in Japan I DON'T CARE FOR IT. Cheers. Really. Take a look at Phase One camera systems. They are a Danish company, not Japanese. Now, I will agree that with high volume compact cameras the Japanese do have everyone beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 24, 2013 Share #214 Posted May 24, 2013 Especially in their Alpa guise.. I wouldn't mind an S2 system over anything ourJapanese friens can offer either... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted May 24, 2013 Share #215 Posted May 24, 2013 Highly unlikely to put it mildly. Developing a new camera takes years. It is utterly impossible to pull one out of a hat for marketing reasons. Leica M8.2 Leica M9-P Leica Hermes Leica M-E Lots of examples of variations on a theme for marketing reasons... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted May 24, 2013 Share #216 Posted May 24, 2013 So what are you doing on this forum?:confused: I come on for some COMEDY RELIEF. LOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted May 24, 2013 Share #217 Posted May 24, 2013 I come on for some COMEDY RELIEF. LOL. Well, you came to the right place! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted May 24, 2013 Share #218 Posted May 24, 2013 Whatever comes out of that box, we can be sure of one thing. It will have a red dot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted May 24, 2013 Share #219 Posted May 24, 2013 If it doesn't have a view finder, I am going to make farting noises at this computer screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 24, 2013 Share #220 Posted May 24, 2013 I wouldn't mind an S2 system over anything ourJapanese friens can offer either... S2 Body for about half price, with warranty, these days. Does your wife know yet? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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