Tim B Posted May 18, 2013 Share #1 Posted May 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've used older versions of Capture One and found the interface less than intuitive and eventually simply used Photoshop. Now that Adobe have gone all silly IMHO and off into the clouds I wonder, reluctantly, if it is time to look at alternatives. Does Capture One Pro offer a viable alternative to PS's editing capabilities? Layers? What about output, especially printing? And yes, I know that for the cost of C1 I could get quite a few months of cloud dwelling, but that's not the whole point of my objections to Adobe's arrogant disrespect for photographers, particularly amateurs. I'd appreciate any opinions, thank you. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nggalai Posted May 19, 2013 Share #2 Posted May 19, 2013 Phase One offers Demo versions on their web site; it’s probably best if you have a look to check out whether all the things you need for RAW development and photo editing are in there. Personally, I only need a pixel editing app such as Photoshop (or Photoline in my case) for resizing images for the web. Capture One seems to employ bilinear resampling which makes for rather soft web-sized images. The rest, including spot removal (sensor dust), Capture One handles just fine for me. The print dialog has far better and more sophisticated sharpening options so I usually print directly from Capture One (inkjet, up to A3). Layers work nicely, and Phase One finally included gradients, for darkening skies and the like. Capture One 7 demands a pretty fast computer, mind. The new render engine takes advantage of graphics cards to speed up both viewport rendering and producing JPEG/TIFF files; it depends on your hardware and operating system whether it works or not, though. If you’ve been happy with the results Photoshop delivered, you could have a look at Lightroom. It seems Lightroom won’t be Cloud-only for the time being. Cheers, -Sascha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Sascha, Thanks for your thoughtful and considered response. Trying a demo is the obvious thing to do, but fellow users' experiences are invaluable. I do use Lightroom which is OK for Raw conversion and some basic tasks, but then I go to PS for in depth editing work. Thanks again, Tim Edited May 19, 2013 by Tim B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 21, 2013 Share #4 Posted May 21, 2013 DPR had this article recently, and the alternatives to Photoshop CC can only get better if the developers think there will be a mass migration from Photoshop, 10 Photo Editing Programs (that aren't Photoshop): Digital Photography Review for myself I am sticking with CS6 and Lightroom (as the source of ACR upgrades and new features), but some of the programmes in the DPR article look like they may be worth testing. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 21, 2013 Share #5 Posted May 21, 2013 I notice Picture Window is available for Mac as well nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 21, 2013 Share #6 Posted May 21, 2013 I do use Lightroom which is OK for Raw conversion and some basic tasks, but then I go to PS for in depth editing work. Have you tried the latest version of LR for more in-depth tasks and found it lacking? I personally have found increasingly less need to use PS, only keeping CS4 to this point. LR gets better with every iteration and can now perform many tasks that before only PS could do. But if you don't like the interface, or don't work to learn its capabilities, then it won't suit. Everyone has a preference, which is why trials are good, but only extended use IMO makes one comfortable...or not... with any given software. No cloud for me, and I hope not ever for LR, but I fear Adobe will eventually go that route. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Jeff, I'm using LR 4.3 at the moment. 4.4 update totally messed up my Photoshop editing link and I could find no solution to this so I went back. I hope that v.5 will be trouble free. Yes, I agree that, although I am a relative newcomer to LR, it is becoming for me a very usable tool. But there is so much it won't do - no layers with all the potential that they offer, and I haven't got used to printing from LR yet. You are quite correct, it takes time to acquire the knowledge to use any program to the best advantage. I saw the DR review of PS alternatives, but aside from the amount of time it would take to try them out in depth myself I fancy that PS spoils one for other, less professional and usable software. And to give Adobe their due PS is a fantastic tool. Years ago, before I got into Photoshop I used Corel Photopaint (as it was then) and of course, Corel Draw. At that time it seemed like a real PS alternative, but I'm not sure where it went and was it ever available for Mac? Thanks for the ideas. Tim Edited May 21, 2013 by Tim B 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoehsl Posted May 26, 2013 Share #8 Posted May 26, 2013 Personally, I only need a pixel editing app such as Photoshop (or Photoline in my case) for resizing images for the web. Capture One seems to employ bilinear resampling which makes for rather soft web-sized images. In C1 the detail/sharpness visible in web sized images depends on your sharpening settings. I use Amount: 300 - 500, Radius: 0.5, Threshold: 0 for most situations and actually get better results than in PS. You must just make sure that sharpening is enabled in your Recipe under Adjustments. When you set your zoom to 50% as you setup your sharpening you'll get a pretty good impression of what you can expect in your final output. If your original is very detailed and sharp you might want to use a Radius of 0.3. If you have a lot of high ISO noise give it some Threshold. If you want coarser detail move the Radius up. Usually the settings that give you a good result in a scaled image look ridiculously high at 100% zoom - so don't get a fright. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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