ldhrads Posted May 17, 2013 Share #1 Posted May 17, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Unboxed my new MM last night, took two shots this morning and when I tried to upload to Aperture I got the message that the format was unsupported. I've been loading up DNG's from my M9 and M8.2 for several years. Anyone know whats going on here? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rosuna Posted May 17, 2013 Share #2 Posted May 17, 2013 Maybe a conversion to the DNG format (from the original DMG format of the camera) using Adobe's application would solve the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhrads Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted May 17, 2013 Am I missing something here? Just got MM and Aperture is not recognizing the DNG? Help! Please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 17, 2013 Share #4 Posted May 17, 2013 Various threads on the topic, such as this one. Lots more here or elsewhere from Google. Welcome to LR. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatlux Posted May 17, 2013 Share #5 Posted May 17, 2013 Could be several reasons: Apple's raw library reads DNG files but only accepts files from cameras that have been profiled by Apple - Others do that (Capture One only opens files from explicitely supported cameras, not generic DNG files). Apple's raw library does not support linear DNG files (MM files have no Bayer pattern) Apple's raw library does not support monochrome DNG files All of the above can be easily fixed, but will likely require an Apple update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 17, 2013 Share #6 Posted May 17, 2013 I responded to your other thread. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandymc Posted May 17, 2013 Share #7 Posted May 17, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Could be several reasons: Apple's raw library reads DNG files but only accepts files from cameras that have been profiled by Apple - Others do that (Capture One only opens files from explicitely supported cameras, not generic DNG files). Apple's raw library does not support linear DNG files (MM files have no Bayer pattern) Apple's raw library does not support monochrome DNG files All of the above can be easily fixed, but will likely require an Apple update. 2 wins the prize....... Sandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted May 17, 2013 Share #8 Posted May 17, 2013 Grumbles have been despatched in Apples direction a long while ago about this to their surprisingly miniscule Aperture development team. If I recall correctly the sticking point is that the format support is part of the OS and not just a function of Aperture........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 18, 2013 Share #9 Posted May 18, 2013 Am I missing something here? Just got MM and Aperture is not recognizing the DNG? Help! Please! Correct - time to get into Lightroom, Photoshop or Capture1... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted May 18, 2013 Share #10 Posted May 18, 2013 I'm a bit surprised that Adobe products can open MM DNGs, but that their DNG converter cannot turn them into generic DNGs - I've tried every combination of settings, but none result in an OS X-readable DNG. For now the workaround is to open in PS, save as TIFF (makes an 18MB file) and import into Aperture. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 18, 2013 Share #11 Posted May 18, 2013 The DNGs written by the M Monochrom are generic DNGs (insofar as there is such a thing as a generic DNG). It is just that Aperture (or rather the raw conversion routines integrated into OS X) cannot deal with monochrome raw data. I suppose one could convert those monochrome DNGs into fake colour DNGs, but that wouldn’t be such a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted May 19, 2013 Share #12 Posted May 19, 2013 I have discovered that the most recent version of Graphic Converter can open the Monochrom DNGs, but if you then save one as a .RAW file, Aperture cannot read it (nor can Photoshop). You can, however, save them as TIFFs and Aperture happily ingests them. I think I should suggest to Lemke Software that they might consider allowing a raw format to save into that can be read by the current MacOS. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydarkroom Posted May 19, 2013 Share #13 Posted May 19, 2013 Apple is currently working on supporting the DNG file for the Monochrom. Hopefully it won't take too long. You may want to convert to TIFF as mentioned by many. However, the TIFF files are huge in size and doesn't seem to be as good to manipulate as the DNGs. I decided to shoot JPG+DNG for now. When RAW support is available, I can right click on the image and choose: "use RAW as original". All adjustments you made on the JPG will then be performed in the RAW file (cropping, curves, etc). You may have to re-adjust the curves and will be able to pull more from the shadows, but cropping and other adjustments may not need to be touched. At that point, your images will already been selected, rated, keyworded etc... Cheers Raf Welcome to LR. Jeff Jeff, for many LR is not an option. Although it comes "free" with the camera, it's UI and modular approach to the workflow makes it no so appealing to many. Some love it, good for them. Seems like LR5beta is getting great reviews for the new features, although the modular workflow and UI are unchanged. Lets just hope that there will be a LR6 and not LR CC. As Jaapv mentioned, there are a few other programs that now support MM DNG files (some just recently). I would be really upset to change my entire workflow, move my library and loose all my edits due to the lack of RAW that will eventually will come. Apple took a long time to get the also non-bayer Xtrans sensor from Fuji supported. For many the Apple decoding if far superior than the one from Adobe (although it seems the Adobe just released an update). Again, I would rather wait and get good decoding and process my image once than having to process them over and over every time an update is released. Cheers Raf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted May 20, 2013 Share #14 Posted May 20, 2013 ...Jeff, for many LR is not an option. Although it comes "free" with the camera, it's UI and modular approach to the workflow makes it no so appealing to many. ... Hi, I am not a LR user, as I prefer Photo Mechanic + ACR + PS workflow. However, I am curious by what you mean by modular approach to the workflow. Care to elaborate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydarkroom Posted May 21, 2013 Share #15 Posted May 21, 2013 Hi,I am not a LR user, as I prefer Photo Mechanic + ACR + PS workflow. However, I am curious by what you mean by modular approach to the workflow. Care to elaborate? Hi Tanks, In LR you have the Library | Develop | Slideshow | Print | Web | Map | Book Modules. You have to switch from one to the other to have each task done. I really like the fact that in Aperture I can edit a picture right from inside a slideshow or book. Print, add keyword, change metadata from anywhere.This is not better or the right way of doing a workflow, it's just the one that fit my needs. Some like to follow this workflow proposed by LR. Cheers Raf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 21, 2013 Share #16 Posted May 21, 2013 Jeff, for many LR is not an option. It's an option for everyone, but as you say, some love the option and some hate it. I happen to fall in the former category, but that's just my experience. Makes no difference to me what others choose; whatever works. The good news is that every workable option, AFAIK, is available for free trial, so no need to deal with hypotheticals. The key IMO is to pick something and stick with it for a while (and hope the manufacturer doesn't lose support for your choice). It takes a while to learn and become comfortable with any tool. People generally like what they've come to know, and don't like change. Just like a lot of other things in life. I started with LR, so it's second nature to me, and it keeps improving, for minimal cost....so far. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted May 22, 2013 Share #17 Posted May 22, 2013 It's an option for everyone, but as you say, some love the option and some hate it. Jeff Unfortunately, not if one is a Linux user as Lightroom is not offered by Adobe for that platform. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire53 Posted May 22, 2013 Share #18 Posted May 22, 2013 Unfortunately, not if one is a Linux user as Lightroom is not offered by Adobe for that platform. Nick I guess this is rare rare in the world of post processing, but there is VMWare (Windows on Linux) to help. I used to do it during my old Linux days Uwe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted May 22, 2013 Share #19 Posted May 22, 2013 I guess this is rare rare in the world of post processing, but there is VMWare (Windows on Linux) to help.I used to do it during my old Linux days Uwe Yeah, Gimp is gimped . VMWare is a very good solution, I use it on my Mac to run Windows software that is not available, as well as couple of Linux applications I need to use now and then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 23, 2013 Share #20 Posted May 23, 2013 Unfortunately, not if one is a Linux user as Lightroom is not offered by Adobe for that platform. Only if there's a law against switching platforms. I use option as freedom of choice, in the broadest sense. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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