Jeff S Posted May 20, 2013 Share #41 Â Posted May 20, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I understand because burgle was originally a corruption of the word burglar in English, so the Americans decided to have a more 'rational' approach, but it is very ugly and unnecessary in my opinion. Â Nope, the American version came first according to most sources, as I cited. Â Incidentally, do you say 'vandalized' or 'vandled'? Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted May 20, 2013 Share #42 Â Posted May 20, 2013 I super-deplorify the un-necessary mangleization of perfectly good words. Â Redundantified letters, prefixes and suffixes appear apparently to be super-popular these days particularlymost among the linguistically insecure. Professor Unwin would feel right at home. Â "pre-order". "Minty". "Lense". "LCD display" "nuclearization" Â Â And redundant words as well...'whole host', 'general consensus,' etc. Â On letters, though, I think Americans often go the shorter route, e.g., lens vs lense, color vs colour, etc. Glad you agree on the wasted ink. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 20, 2013 Share #43  Posted May 20, 2013 Nope, the American version came first according to most sources, as I cited. Incidentally, do you say 'vandalized' or 'vandled'?  Jeff  Neither.  Regards,  Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 20, 2013 Share #44 Â Posted May 20, 2013 ... Incidentally, do you say 'vandalized' or 'vandled'? "Vandalised" but this is a different case. "Burgled" is the past participle of the infinitive "to burgle" but there is no parallel infinitive 'to vandal' so "vandled" does not exist. Its the same with notarised, pulverised, chastised, baptised, criticised etc. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 20, 2013 Share #45  Posted May 20, 2013 And redundant words as well...'whole host', 'general consensus,' etc. On letters, though, I think Americans often go the shorter route, e.g., lens vs lense, color vs colour, etc. Glad you agree on the wasted ink.  Jeff  Indeed.  Let us not forget "the Hoi polloi" either.  "Lense" is an abomination not found in any language.  Regards,  Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 20, 2013 Share #46 Â Posted May 20, 2013 Since we appear to have moved onto tautologies, I'll add: AC current, DC current, personal belongings, small minority, PIN number, plan ahead ... Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 20, 2013 Share #47 Â Posted May 20, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) "Vandalised" but this is a different case. "Burgled" is the past participle of the infinitive "to burgle" but there is no parallel infinitive 'to vandal' so "vandled" does not exist. Its the same with notarised, pulverised, chastised, baptised, criticised etc. Â I get the logic, but we don't use 'burgle;' rather it's generally just 'rob' or 'break in,' etc. Otherwise, it's about the bad guys, the vandals and burglars, and they commit similar bad deeds. In your above examples, 'criticized' might be a parallel case, as it's the critic committing the act. Just be thankful we don't say 'robberize.' Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 20, 2013 Share #48 Â Posted May 20, 2013 Just to bring this back on topic, apologies for stealing the thread. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 20, 2013 Share #49 Â Posted May 20, 2013 me too. I would also like ten other cases to be taken into consideration. Â Regards, Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glug Posted May 20, 2013 Share #50 Â Posted May 20, 2013 In any case it is not burglary, the legal definition of which (a) requires breaking and entering and ( must be at night. It's plain theft in any language. Â It might have been plain theft in this case but if he had taken the camera from a part of the shop to which the public do not have access, (stock room / staff room), day or night, it would have been a burglary, (or burglarization:D ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted May 20, 2013 Share #51 Â Posted May 20, 2013 Only on the forum -- a shop get a camera stolen worth the equivalent of two working men's wages for a month, luckily no-one gets hurt and the debate revolves around the use of modern vs. 17th Century English across international borders.... Â Glad no-one was hurt and hope the camera is found. Â Ps. Before someone corrects me, when I say camera, I of course mean camera, lens and filter.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted May 20, 2013 Share #52  Posted May 20, 2013 Only on the forum -- a shop get a camera stolen worth the equivalent of two working men's wages for a month, luckily no-one gets hurt and the debate revolves around the use of modern vs. 17th Century English across international borders....  It reminds me of the Not The Nine O'Clock News Sketch: Not the Nine O'Clock News Question Time - YouTube  Frances Morrell @ 2:55  Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share #53  Posted August 23, 2013 Here's some good news  Leica camera shop thief arrested | Amateur Photographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 23, 2013 Share #54 Â Posted August 23, 2013 Shouldn't that say 'suspected thief' or are we going to hang him now and be done with it?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted August 24, 2013 Share #55 Â Posted August 24, 2013 It looks like Jeremy Clarkson off Top Gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted August 24, 2013 Share #56 Â Posted August 24, 2013 Shouldn't that say 'suspected thief' or are we going to hang him now and be done with it?! Â Well I agree with innocence until proven guilty, but when you get caught red-handed like this, what's there to prove? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 24, 2013 Share #57  Posted August 24, 2013 Here's some good news Leica camera shop thief arrested | Amateur Photographer   In the same link in AP a photographer is reported to be harassed by a security guard. He has the proceedings on video, but this is how YouTube handles the matter: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/204788-another-theft-from-a-dealer-to-report/?do=findComment&comment=2404095'>More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted August 24, 2013 Share #58  Posted August 24, 2013 Since we appear to have moved onto tautologies, I'll add: AC current, DC current, personal belongings, small minority, PIN number, plan ahead ... Pete.  Among other things I'm an electrical engineer. I only ever say AC or DC. Never really heard anyone in the industry ever say AC current... But electrical engineering is full of dodgy things. Like for example most of the time AC/DC is conceptually referring to voltage not current! Then there's the whole screw-up about "current" flowing from positive to negative, not to mention "imaginary" that can be measured. The list goes on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest badbob Posted August 24, 2013 Share #59  Posted August 24, 2013 Here's some good news Leica camera shop thief arrested | Amateur Photographer  This guy hit a Leica store and got only £6000 of gear? I think they should give him the stuff in exchange for an agreement to work with Leica and the authorities to publicize the whole caper - they'd make it back 50 times over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted August 24, 2013 Share #60 Â Posted August 24, 2013 I see a panel of three judges agitatedly debating in the court room whether to sentence the suspect to theft, burglarization or burglary ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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